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Phophet, obviously we both understand the dynamic. I just argue that key projects have an extranormal impact on what happens later.

E.g., compare the projects at the se and sw and ne corners of 13th and U Street to the nw corner (the Ellington).

It makes a world of difference. If the "Ellington" was more like the other ones in terms of execution and quality, the general improvement you see there and on 14th St. east of U Street would be significantly diminished, in my opinion anyway.

WRT Georgia Ave., of course I know the difference between being by a Metro station (Petworth, 7th St./Howard U) and not being by the Metro. (I'm not saying you're accusing me of anything or lack of knowledge either.)

So yes, the GA and MO intersection is less valuable, significantly, even though it is a major intersection, because it lacks the subway access of the NH and GA intersection. (Which is why the city should prioritize streetcar development on the street...)

But... you could have a project like the Atlas Flats even so, and yes, it's taken about 8 years for that project to come together, or you could have a project like the single story single use Walmart at GA Ave.

Me, I'd rather wait a few years with a still empty "blighted" space than right off the next 40 years for that space.

Similarly, if you know the 300 block of H St. NE north side, it was a gas station and some buildings, BP wanted to build a 50000 s.f. gas station on the site and the neighborhood fought it off. As the market changed, the owner decided to build a mixed use building, which finally broke ground last summer, and will have 200+ apartments and a Giant Supermarket.

To me, I think it was worth the 12 years of the property being empty to get what is coming. As a gas station, it likely would have been one for at least 2-3 decades, and would have significantly impacted negatively the west end of the corridor.

I guess, having moved here in 1987, and dealt with years of disinvestment, and after seeing so many s**** projects get built, projects which had neutral at best, negative mostly impacts in terms of further spurring additional revitalization, that I'd rather wait a bit, then settle for anything, anything usually being pretty crappy stuff.

I mean this is a shock:

- Atlas, http://www.flickr.com/photos/rllayman/7122143503/in/photostream/
- East Capitol & 16th St. SE, http://www.flickr.com/photos/rllayman/7122143513/in/photostream/

compared to the area in 1987 (although I liked the building there, which was an old Sears store dating from the late 1920s).

Projects like the Foulger-Pratt Walmart are basically the equivalent of this:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rllayman/7122143521/in/photostream

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rllayman/7122173139/in/photostream

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rllayman/7122178035/in/photostream (although for Bladensburg Road before the Atlas Flats, this is the equivalent of a Four Seasons Hotel...)

and only if you are absolutely desperate (e.g., East St. Louis, Detroit) should you settle for those, and ideally not in high profile locations either.

by Richard Layman on Apr 28, 2012 3:48 pm • linkreport

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