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"What you propose is to get pedestrians out of the way, because they're a nuisance."

Wrong. You didn't read what I said. What I was saying is that the intersection should be designed so that ALL users get through more quickly. I know there is a mindless anti-car mindset among some people here who thing that anything that doesn't involve solely walking is evil and must be banned, but I think that's an unrealistic and short-sighted attitude. My point was that I think it's reasonable to demand that EVERYONE (drivers AND pedestrians) play by the rules in order to speed the trip through the intersection for everyone. In return for the diagonal crossing--which speeds the trip through the intersection by eliminating the need to wait at two crossing lights as you cross in an "L"-shaped pattern--the pedestrian waits a little longer at the other end because the signs say "Don't Walk" all the way around. Meantime, in return for the ability to make right turns on green (I think banning lefts there is a good idea, as there are no left turn lanes, and I think banning right on red is needed if you do a Barnes Dance), drivers have to wait through multiple red-light sequences. But when anyone, driver or pedestrian, gets to go, he's ensured that he can go without encountering driver-pedestrian conflicts (again, if people would obey the rules).

DC got it wrong on this one.

by Rich on Oct 19, 2010 9:00 am • linkreport

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