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Metrobus: How is it that a rte straight out Rte 1/RhdIs Ave is not considered "transit priority"? Did I mis-read this?

by Tina in Breakfast links: Civic duty on Oct 21, 2014 9:24 am • linkreport

I look at the Metrobus map provided in the link and it really reads like a "Ok, step it up PG and do your part" to me. Metrobus clearly wants to shed a lot of its PG service onto The Bus. By comparison, the J5 appears to be the only line in Montgomery County that is not deemed principal.

by Lord Baltimore in Breakfast links: Civic duty on Oct 21, 2014 9:10 am • linkreport

Maybe that's true, but I doubt it. I'm 19 years old and in college and I plan on living in the suburbs, close to the city but not in it. If you actually stop and think about it the suburbs offer the best of both worlds. All the attractions of the city not far away and all the serenity of the country close by. And cars are kind of helpful for that.

by getreal in Not just a phase: Young Americans won’t start motoring like their parents on Oct 21, 2014 9:05 am • linkreport

Bike reich article. The vocal and bored minority, we see the same in Vienna and McLean where a lot of people want better transportation solutions, but are shouted down at public meetings by these types. They don't represent what most people actually want.

by Navid Roshan in Breakfast links: Civic duty on Oct 21, 2014 8:51 am • linkreport

+1 for Douglas Stewart.

While it's true that "many voices seldom speak in the same direction," few fundraisers work on a commission basis and importantly, the practice is frowned upon by many donors. Perhaps a bonus for meeting a goal should you wish to create incentive....

by Shelby in We're looking to hire a Greater Greater fundraiser on Oct 21, 2014 8:36 am • linkreport

The problems with speed cameras are that there aren't enough speed cameras, and that they are prevented (by law) from being moved around without notice as a response to observed issues. Of course, those problems were written into the law so that speed camera opponents could later complain that the speed cameras weren't working. Well played!

by Mike in After more crashes, DDOT pledges to remove Arkansas Avenue's rush hour lane on Oct 21, 2014 7:51 am • linkreport

Another interesting article! I just want to venture out and speculate that crime isn't a foregone result of development. Proximity to the metro and big road with a lot of pedestrian traffic, etc probably all contribute to the presence of some crime.

I say this as a relatively new arrival to the area, been here for only two years. I live on a quiet residential street and have had a completely different experience in my Ward 8 neighborhood. New does not always result in crime/tension.

by i heart newcomb in Is Sheridan Station a sign of change east of the river, or more of the same? on Oct 21, 2014 6:39 am • linkreport

The frequency of crashes here is insane. I use Arkansas with some frequency since it's a handy way for me to get from the Georgia Ave corridor over to, and across, the park. But I never realized that at times there are two lanes! Frankly, at the bare minimum this road need lines to say what is and isn't a lane (parts of Piney Branch Road have this problem, too). I mean, even lane markings indicating that there's only a single lane in each direction should help car thieves know that it's a two-lane road. And also the rest of us. And, frankly, it would still be useful as a two-lane road; there's no need at all for two lanes in any single direction on this road.

by EMD in After more crashes, DDOT pledges to remove Arkansas Avenue's rush hour lane on Oct 20, 2014 11:09 pm • linkreport

@Brett M, @Cameras

I wouldn't pat yourself on the back too hard, because this story does disprove one thing opponents of speed cameras like to argue -- that motorists know what constitutes a safe speed better than the city, and in the absence of automated enforcement they'll drive that optimally safe speed voluntarily. Clearly, this is nonsense, otherwise these collisions wouldn't be happening. Motorists cannot be trusted to know what constitutes a safe speed, and people who use these incidents to argue against the city's traffic enforcement efforts are in effect declaring that their momentary convenience should be more important than other people's lives.

If you don't agree, well, what's *your* solution? You've ruled out cameras. You've ruled out stricter enforcement. You've ruled out slowing down traffic. The only remaining options I can think of are (1) do nothing, or (2) prohibit pedestrians from using this segment of Arkansas Avenue. Neither of these options is a solution; remember that some of these collisions have involved striking a parked car, which ought to concern you even if the lives of pedestrians doesn't. (I suppose you could resolve that by removing the parking as well, but I can't imagine that sort of War On Cars activity would sit will with AAA.)

by cminus in After more crashes, DDOT pledges to remove Arkansas Avenue's rush hour lane on Oct 20, 2014 8:41 pm • linkreport

It's interesting that the columnist argues that the differences between the candidates are of style and not policy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHa9jQ-93BY

by Christopher Everspark in Breakfast links: Vote early on Oct 20, 2014 7:43 pm • linkreport

FWIW, there are no pictures of the owner-occupied townhouse condos in the story. They are on Sayles Place, SE and that street has a decidedly urban look- though the condos have the same general color scheme as the rest of the development.

by Darin in Is Sheridan Station a sign of change east of the river, or more of the same? on Oct 20, 2014 7:24 pm • linkreport

202_cyclist -- for different reasons, it's better to not have a federal agency. But obviously if you're gonna have one, it's better for a federal agency to be by many Metrorail lines, rather than one or two.

And for agglomeration economies reasons, it's better to have agencies closer together.

But for DC's economic well being, it would be better to do something different with those 4 blocks, because other uses would generate greater economic return per s.f. of development.

But yes, you're right that this is really a form of sprawl, and sprawl shouldn't be supported, PGC's desires for more development at Metro stations notwithstanding.

Actually, I had suggested that the FBI move to Barry Farm, which is adjacent to St. Elizabeths West, which is where theoretically the Dept. of Homeland Security is supposed to move. Increasingly, that's not likely to happen.

http://urbanplacesandspaces.blogspot.com/2013/02/more-on-barry-farm-vs-poplar-point-as.html

But it would have provided agglomeration economies of a different sort.

And since the land now doesn't generate much net revenue to the city (it's mostly public housing), there would be a net gain, although you'd have to build replacement housing elsewhere.

by Richard Layman in Landover is not the place for the FBI on Oct 20, 2014 7:15 pm • linkreport

true, it is different.

I meant that multiunit buildings would be better than rowhouses, in terms of adding population density, and population density is necessary to drive improvements for the commercial district.

OTOH, it is a struggle to attract people with income to live there because of safety and other considerations.

e.g., http://urbanplacesandspaces.blogspot.com/2011/07/revitalization-in-stages-anacostia.html

Anacostia revitalization is a long term project.

by Richard Layman in Is Sheridan Station a sign of change east of the river, or more of the same? on Oct 20, 2014 7:09 pm • linkreport

@Cameras

You have to admire their effort though. Proven wrong, now it's no longer about cameras but police enforcement...as if DC isn't the most heavily policed city in the world.

@dcmike

Police of all types in DC enforce traffic violations, including the US Mint Police.

by Brett M in After more crashes, DDOT pledges to remove Arkansas Avenue's rush hour lane on Oct 20, 2014 6:04 pm • linkreport

I realize GGW has expenses and, admittedly, I have little to offer in the way of suggestions on how to pay them. But whether it comes from paid advertising or solicited donations, there's little doubt that adding money to the equation opens the possibility for third parties to have an editorial influence on the content.

Without going in to specifics, is it safe to assume that the reader drive didn't go very far in achieving your fundraising goals? That's a bit disappointing.

by dcmike in We're looking to hire a Greater Greater fundraiser on Oct 20, 2014 5:57 pm • linkreport

Well, nice to see yet again that the Bs being shoveled about speed camera effectiveness is proven wrong yet again.

by Cameras in After more crashes, DDOT pledges to remove Arkansas Avenue's rush hour lane on Oct 20, 2014 5:56 pm • linkreport

Scoot Oct 20, 2014 12:01 "Do you believe [Evan Wilder's] actions are justified."

Which actions? By what standard? and in what context?

Whether or not one is annoyed by crusading, and whether or not it is "justified" by the circumstances, I think it is largely irrelevant to the legal liability of a cyclist who is attacked by a driver. Dressing slutty does not excuse rape. Holding a sign that says "F** the Police" and calling the MPD mean names is bad behavior, and not sympathetic, but not a proper legal basis for arrest.

by SJE in Breakfast links: Vote early on Oct 20, 2014 5:55 pm • linkreport

What Arkansas Ave, and every other street in the District, needs is traffic enforcement. I'm all for road diets and other traffic calming measures, but absolutely nothing will stop aggressive drivers when they know for a fact there will be ZERO consequences to their dangerous driving.

Let's face it, everyone who drives in the District knows that outside of automated devices, there is no traffic enforcement going on. It's literally anarchy, a free-for-all. Why would drivers bother following the rules when they know there's almost no chance of receiving a violation notice?

It's absolute insanity when you consider that MPD does not have a traffic enforcement bureau. MPD is, by a massive margin, the largest US police force when measured in officers per capita. Not only that, but there are literarily so many other police departments relieving MPD of their duties that there is no known (public) complete list of agencies operating within the District. Every other big city in the US has a traffic bureau despite being stretched far thinner responding to routine calls for service that MPD doesn't have to deal with. Pretty much every federal agency has it's own department, the District has SEVERAL of it's own, including one just for District government buildings, one just for DC Libraries, one just for the schools. The universities each have their own. Most park land is covered by NPS Police. And the list goes on and on.

Why does the District not operate a full time traffic enforcement bureau?

by dcmike in After more crashes, DDOT pledges to remove Arkansas Avenue's rush hour lane on Oct 20, 2014 5:48 pm • linkreport

@Brett M, the unanswered question here is where the cameras had been placed, and how many. This is a third of a mile section of Arkansas Avenue; if there's only a camera at one end of the stretch, drivers can slow down for it and promptly accelerate once they're past.

But, yes, speed cameras won't do anything if drivers are just going to ignore them so they can continue to render a stretch of road fatally unsafe for their own momentary convenience. I understand your desire to stop coddling scofflaw motorists and instead treat them as the dangerous felons they prove themselves to be, but I think prevention is a better idea than vengeance and we should rebuild roads (narrower lanes, more stop signs and traffic signals, speed bumps and speed humps) to make traveling faster than the speed limit physically impractical.

by cminus in After more crashes, DDOT pledges to remove Arkansas Avenue's rush hour lane on Oct 20, 2014 5:41 pm • linkreport

I remember when many people on this blog were very excited about the opportunity for the FBI headquarters to move from its location directly next to several metro-rail stations, telling us this would be a smart-growth win.

by 202_Cyclist in Landover is not the place for the FBI on Oct 20, 2014 5:37 pm • linkreport

@TransitSnob

LOL. First it was "It takes time to change driver behavior with speed cameras," but now "cameras are helpful but they are not magic bullets."

So, how are cameras helpful if there's no evidence to suggest our roads have become safer with them? DDOT traffic statistics show that accidents have not declined with the increase in cameras over the years.

Again, if it's not "instantly," how long will cameras take to change driver behavior for accidents to at least stabilize? Arkansas Ave has seen an increase in accidents.

by Brett M in After more crashes, DDOT pledges to remove Arkansas Avenue's rush hour lane on Oct 20, 2014 5:16 pm • linkreport

@King Terrapin

"Haha. Now it's my turn to ask: have you been on I-95 in NoVa at any point between 5am and 8pm? "

Yes, and I don't recall denying that Springfield area is congested, but for you to say "it still doesn't compare to the parking lot on I-95 VA" is just a matter of opinion.

"I said WMATA fully supports the redevelopment of the site. "

You listed "WMATA support" as one of the advantages of the Greenbelt site. What WMATA support and how is that good for GSA/FBI?

"...but it also has a large number of disadvantages that Greenbelt doesn't"

Greenbelt has congestion too, GSA does not need Boston properties to relocate FBI there, CIA will move if GSA recommends it, and the Springfield site is large enough to accommodate the FBI.

So what disadvantages are there that Greenbelt doesn't have?

by Brett M in Landover is not the place for the FBI on Oct 20, 2014 5:06 pm • linkreport

@Brett,
My point was that cameras are helpful but they are not magic bullets. They are one tool of many, and because they are installed at fixed locations, while some people will certainly slow down in general, other people will figure out where the cameras are located and only drive the speed limit near the cameras. In other words, one speed cameras does not instantly solve speeding on an entire corridor, hence the need for street design that creates an environment where it feels like 25 is the appropriate speed to drive.

AnonJohn,
You are certainly correct that there are other ways to create a safe street, and I would argue that most advocates aren't against car movement, they're against prioritizing car movement over everything else (ped safety, bike mobility, comfort, etc.). The goal is not to punish car drivers, the goal is to create safe streets that prioritize efficient mobility and equal access. This is about creating a better city for everyone.

by TransitSnob in After more crashes, DDOT pledges to remove Arkansas Avenue's rush hour lane on Oct 20, 2014 4:59 pm • linkreport

It was Charlotte Street east of Crotona Park. I don't think that's the same as the problem here though, which is just replace rental housing for extremely low income people with rental housing for extremely low income people, with a few unlucky owner-occupied units in the mix.

by spookiness in Is Sheridan Station a sign of change east of the river, or more of the same? on Oct 20, 2014 4:59 pm • linkreport

Although I do agree with Brett M. and Virginia Resident that there are compelling reasons to locate in Virginia. To know what would be the best choice, you'd have to do an analysis of how many daily trips there are between the current location and the VA sites, and a zip code based analysis of how people get to work.

E.g. the primary reason that SEC moved next to Union Station is at that time, already more than 80% of their employees were riding Metrorail.

And the reason that NPS workers didn't want to move from their North Capitol location is that many take MARC trains and they didn't want to have to add a Metrorail trip to their commute. (The agency moved to 12th and G Streets NW from N. Capitol and H Street NW.)

by Richard Layman in Landover is not the place for the FBI on Oct 20, 2014 4:36 pm • linkreport

Has Councilwoman Bowser's office helped address this problem?

by Anderson in After more crashes, DDOT pledges to remove Arkansas Avenue's rush hour lane on Oct 20, 2014 4:32 pm • linkreport

Nice piece!

by Richard Layman in Landover is not the place for the FBI on Oct 20, 2014 4:29 pm • linkreport

The original building was pretty pathbreaking. The newer buildings not so much, which is what dobromir says also. And that makes it harder to spur significant improvement.

But the one good thing about rental housing is that it can be torn down and rebuilt when density circumstances change.

You can't say that about owner occupied housing.

In my opinion, there needed to be serious planning and focus on building up and around and out from the Metro Station, to reposition it as a key anchor for improvement.

It's not clear that's being done there.

Hence the fits and starts.

fwiw, I wrote a piece about this greater area a couple days ago, which is relevant.

http://urbanplacesandspaces.blogspot.com/2014/10/enclave-development-not-solution-for.html

I don't have a good enough feel about the area, but ... I would say that at one level WC Smith is an awesome company. HOWEVER, I think that their program (rowhouses) works for early stages, and not for later stages of revitalization.

It's a form of dedensifying, exactly comparable to what happened in the Mid Bronx and the debates there in the 1970s (Mid Bronx Desperadoes and another organization, I can't remember the name but saw an exhibit years ago on the topic, or maybe it was Bushwick).

The problem is that you can't change what's been done, because the rowhouses are owner occupied.

by Richard Layman in Is Sheridan Station a sign of change east of the river, or more of the same? on Oct 20, 2014 4:28 pm • linkreport

Douglas --

Thanks for your feedback. We certainly appreciate your viewpoint, and know that the fundraising community's many voices seldom all speak in the same direction. After several months of discussion by our leadership (several of whom have fundraising experience, at it happens), we've decided that this setup is what works best for us at this point, given our particular circumstances, resources, and needs. We understand that not everyone may find it to be their cup of tea, but with all of the facts and circumstances considered, we're committed to the best possible future for the GGW family! Thanks!

by Aimee Custis in We're looking to hire a Greater Greater fundraiser on Oct 20, 2014 4:24 pm • linkreport

@Brett M: Norfolk's Tide isn't a streetcar line, and it's not really all that comparable to the discussions we are having in DC (and KC) about streetcars.

The Tide didn't replace a bus line--BRT was never a possible option for that corridor--it largely runs in it's own ROW (a pre-existing railway), and it was significantly cheaper to build than most LRT systems in the US. I also don't think its boosters oversold the economic development angle: the Tide is a pretty traditional (for the US) link between downtown and commuter park-and-ride lots. If anything, the Tide's ridership suffers because it is only a link between downtown and park-and-ride lots... development around Harbor Park will do a lot to change that, but Tide wasn't really billed as a way to develop Harbor Park. I think it's pretty obvious to everyone that development will bolster the Tide, not the other way around.

Besides, if the Tide is extended to the oceanfront (or even just the Town Center or Lynnhaven) or the Navy Base, it would be very hard to argue that the Tide is "no more useful than buses." Buses will never be able to compete with LRT (or private vehicles) in those corridors, particularly when LRT has it's own ROW. The only way the Tide is relevent to the LRT v. buses (let alone streetcar v. buses) debate is if the Tide's operating costs draw money away from buses, but I don't think that's happened either.

At any rate, critics like O'Toole don't care about bus riders any more than they care about rail.

by Steven H in Breakfast links: Vote early on Oct 20, 2014 4:22 pm • linkreport

@ Richard

"Directly accessible via Metro Green Line, MARC Camden Line, one stop away from the Purple Line in CP, 5min from New Carrollton Amtrak/MARC/Metro/PL, and even the Bolt Bus to NY and express Metrobus to BWI are on site
I would like to know what form a transit has Greenbelt Station 5 minutes from New Carrolton Amtrak/MARC. Jetpack perhaps? I suppose if you got a taxi, or had a zipcar, you could do it on 495 in 15 minutes

Also Bolt+Megabus serve were they please. Developing the greenbelt metro lot might make them choose to relocate their services."

4.5 miles = 5 min (or less).

Bolt serves what's convenient, and the FBI moving to Greenbelt won't change what's convenient. All they need is a single space to park the bus and a bus stop sign.

@asffa
"Pick Greenbelt to advocate sprawl."

vs what? Springfield and Landover??? Yeah, okkk...

@Brett M
"Have you ever been to Suitland? The Census HQ is directly adjacent to the Metro station"

Yes, and that's exactly why I said that the LANDOVER site is "even farther from the Metro" than the CB, making it worse.

"In contrast the Springfield site is...In the middle of a traffic nightmare

So is Greenbelt. The most problematic areas are of BW Pkwy are between the Beltway and Greenbelt Rd interchanges."

Haha. Now it's my turn to ask: have you been on I-95 in NoVa at any point between 5am and 8pm? The B-W Parkway (at least up until Laurel) does suck during the rush, but there are alternatives, and it still doesn't compare to the parking lot on I-95 VA.

"Plus Metro does not favor the Greenbelt site for FBI and is not giving FBI that land. So your #9 and #8 are negated. And don't get me started on #5."

I said WMATA fully supports the redevelopment of the site. Nobody said anyone was giving anybody anything. The WMATA Board amended it's long-standing JDA with Renard Development specifically to facilitate a possible FBI HQ relocation with the following reasoning:

"The amendment supports Metro's strategic goal of improving regional mobility and connecting communities. An FBI presence at Greenbelt would increase reverse commuting on Metrorail, thereby making better use of existing capacity. It could bring long sought transit-oriented development to the Greenbelt site and help catalyze development in Greenbelt and nearby College Park and Berwyn Heights, all of which support the relocation of the FBI headquarters to the Metro station site"

"But I can make a long list of Springfield advantages too:
1. it's closer to FBI's forensics lab in Quantico
2. closer to National Airport
3. closer to the Manassas field office
4. GSA already owns the Springfield site
5. directly accessible to MEtro (BL)
6. close to 95/495
7 located in the heart of a huge federal defense corridor (Pentagon, BRAC, Fort Belvoir, Quantico)
8. site is currently underutilized
9. Central location in heart of fast-growing Northern Virginia, which is growing far faster than suburban MD
10. Close to new Springfield town center"

I don't disagree that Springfield has it's advantages (which is why it's much better than Landover), but it also has a large number of disadvantages that Greenbelt doesn't.

by King Terrapin in Landover is not the place for the FBI on Oct 20, 2014 4:20 pm • linkreport

I would suggest you revisit the idea of compensating on a commission basis. This practice is discouraged by fundraising professionals. It tends to create short-term incentives at the expense of developing an organization for long-term success, which should be the goal of a fundraiser.

by Douglas Stewart in We're looking to hire a Greater Greater fundraiser on Oct 20, 2014 4:01 pm • linkreport

Isn't the argument that the FBI should go to PG County for development purposes one of the most specious ones out there? I didn't know that the feds were in the business of bailing out PG County because of its inability to grow.

Let PG County first prove they can do one (one!) well-designed TOD before we start creating more Suitlands.

by Seen it all in Landover is not the place for the FBI on Oct 20, 2014 3:59 pm • linkreport

Brett forgot to mention the proximity to the Springfield VRE stop (co-located with the Metro blue line). With the federal subsidy, living down 95 with cheap housing and taking the VRE to either Quantico or Springfield (depending on the day) could become attractive.

by Virginia Resident in Landover is not the place for the FBI on Oct 20, 2014 3:56 pm • linkreport

directly accessible to MEtro (BL)
6. close to 95/495
7 located in the heart of a huge federal defense corridor (Pentagon, BRAC, Fort Belvoir, Quantico)
8. site is currently underutilized

Greenbelt has the same, Ft. Meade and the NSA are not far from Greenbelt

9. Central location in heart of fast-growing Northern Virginia, which is growing far faster than suburban MD

Actually a pretty good reason not to throw federal dollars developing NoVa and instead spend it elsewhere.

by Richard in Landover is not the place for the FBI on Oct 20, 2014 3:53 pm • linkreport

Do any of you who are claiming that FBI employees don't use Metro to commute have any data to back up that claim?

by MLD in Landover is not the place for the FBI on Oct 20, 2014 3:34 pm • linkreport

@ TransitSnob

"It takes time to change driver behavior with speed cameras. "

How much time? Is 5 months not enough time to at least see accidents stabilize? Why the increase?

by Brett M in After more crashes, DDOT pledges to remove Arkansas Avenue's rush hour lane on Oct 20, 2014 3:27 pm • linkreport

The fault with the Metro accessibility argument is that more FBI employees live in Montgomery and PG Co than anywhere else. Do you really think they will start commuting by Metro to Greenbelt, when many of them don't even use Metro now?

@"The east side of our region has not gotten the jobs and public investment that the west side has. "

Sure it has. PG County got the Andrews, Census Bureau, NASA, BARC, National Archives, Smithsonian Support Center, US Fish and Wildlife...not to mention FedEx field (partially financed by the State)

@King Terrapin

"...the horrible Census HQ in Suitland in terms of community integration (and it's even farther from the Metro)"

Have you ever been to Suitland? The Census HQ is directly adjacent to the Metro station.

"In contrast the Springfield site is...In the middle of a traffic nightmare

So is Greenbelt. The most problematic areas are of BW Pkwy are between the Beltway and Greenbelt Rd interchanges. Plus Metro does not favor the Greenbelt site for FBI and is not giving FBI that land. So your #9 and #8 are negated. And don't get me started on #5.

But I can make a long list of Springfield advantages too:
1. it's closer to FBI's forensics lab in Quantico
2. closer to National Airport
3. closer to the Manassas field office
4. GSA already owns the Springfield site
5. directly accessible to MEtro (BL)
6. close to 95/495
7 located in the heart of a huge federal defense corridor (Pentagon, BRAC, Fort Belvoir, Quantico)
8. site is currently underutilized
9. Central location in heart of fast-growing Northern Virginia, which is growing far faster than suburban MD
10. Close to new Springfield town center

by Brett M in Landover is not the place for the FBI on Oct 20, 2014 3:19 pm • linkreport

Close Piney Branch Rd @ Arkansas. The whole point of a national park is to protect and exhibit nature, not as a convenience for commuters. You will also need to forbid left turns from Arkansas to 16th.

My experience is this neighborhood has the worst drivers I have witnessed in DC. Drivers race down side streets as casually as they race down Arkansas. That's a big reason why DDOT's placed so many traffic control mechanisms on these streets.

by PhilGP in After more crashes, DDOT pledges to remove Arkansas Avenue's rush hour lane on Oct 20, 2014 2:54 pm • linkreport

Even if crashes were in stolen vehicles, that argues, at best, for the limited ability of cameras to control speed. After all, that car crashed here and not somewhere else. If there were physical constraints to speeding, then it tends to happen less.

by Crickey7 in After more crashes, DDOT pledges to remove Arkansas Avenue's rush hour lane on Oct 20, 2014 2:45 pm • linkreport

AnonJohn, it seems strange to describe as NIMBYism the desire for traffic calming measures. I support the same thing for that neighborhood, and I don't live there, and the same for any other neighborhood in the city afflicted with dangerous roads. It's called a principle. Of course those that are most affected will be the loudest in insisting on that principle, but that doesn't make it any less of a principled stand.

All of that said, there's no reason DDOT couldn't design the road to allow for through traffic to proceed at 20 or 25mph, without stop signs, speed bumps, or other such nonsense. I bet the cameras will work too, over a longer time frame.

by JR in After more crashes, DDOT pledges to remove Arkansas Avenue's rush hour lane on Oct 20, 2014 2:41 pm • linkreport

The new development on Pomeroy Road SE has the safe, suburban style, not suitable with the area. Gives a bit of feel of cheep development. Better look of the first phase. Also big disruption of the green, woody landscape typical for EotR.
All this will have long lasting effect on the future housing and social development. If you build a bunch of if not ugly- boring buildings that will have a negative impact for decades.

by dobromir in Is Sheridan Station a sign of change east of the river, or more of the same? on Oct 20, 2014 2:38 pm • linkreport

@mtp, asffa

Several of the crashes were during the day and were not in stolen vehicles.

This stretch is slightly downhill, with wide lanes and terrible lane markings, and that invites excessive speed.

by MLD in After more crashes, DDOT pledges to remove Arkansas Avenue's rush hour lane on Oct 20, 2014 2:33 pm • linkreport

Pick Greenbelt to advocate sprawl.

by asffa in Landover is not the place for the FBI on Oct 20, 2014 2:28 pm • linkreport

@Scoot: if nobody is liable for an accident if the other person didn't avoid the accident, why bother having traffic laws at all? everyone can just stay out of my way, and they'll be fine!

by Mike in Breakfast links: Vote early on Oct 20, 2014 2:28 pm • linkreport

mtp - yeah, the crash had nothing to do with the road. Car thieves and joyriders don't care.

by asffa in After more crashes, DDOT pledges to remove Arkansas Avenue's rush hour lane on Oct 20, 2014 2:26 pm • linkreport

Agreed that we shouldn't be using stop signs as a type of speed bump to slow people down.

Take out the rush hour lanes, re stripe the road and other physical interventions should be considered first.

Put in a stop sign/light if there's a need to make sure people watch out for cross traffic, not if you just want to slow down through traffic.

by drumz in After more crashes, DDOT pledges to remove Arkansas Avenue's rush hour lane on Oct 20, 2014 2:21 pm • linkreport

Directly accessible via Metro Green Line, MARC Camden Line, one stop away from the Purple Line in CP, 5min from New Carrollton Amtrak/MARC/Metro/PL, and even the Bolt Bus to NY and express Metrobus to BWI are on site

I would like to know what form a transit has Greenbelt Station 5 minutes from New Carrolton Amtrak/MARC. Jetpack perhaps? I suppose if you got a taxi, or had a zipcar, you could do it on 495 in 15 minutes

Also Bolt+Megabus serve were they please. Developing the greenbelt metro lot might make them choose to relocate their services.

by Richard in Landover is not the place for the FBI on Oct 20, 2014 2:19 pm • linkreport

Green. 2008. DuPont. Driver "deported"

by Jack Jackson in Where DC area bike fatalities happen, in one map... and what's the real "intersection of doom" on Oct 20, 2014 2:19 pm • linkreport

FINALLY. So sad that this is what it takes to get DDOT to "finish their study" and get moving - what would the equivalent be for transit lanes on 16th or 14th or K?

by Low Headways in After more crashes, DDOT pledges to remove Arkansas Avenue's rush hour lane on Oct 20, 2014 2:05 pm • linkreport

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