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by Tom Coumaris on Jul 10, 2009 10:55 am
I'm currently in Vancouver, and when I went to the AAA site, it directed me to BCAA, and the first thing on the page was their Bike Assist program -- so it may be in more places as well.
by Gavin Baker on Jul 10, 2009 10:55 am
by Tom Coumaris on Jul 10, 2009 11:02 am
It is time to revamp the stupid laws that forbid cycling downtown on the sidewalks- especially on weekends and where there are no cycling paths or bike lanes. The city needs to SERIOUSLY step up to the plate and start making dedicated separated bicycle ways that are part of the sidewalk- and we have SUPER WIDE SIDEWALKS IN DC- but these bikeways should be separated from the pedestrians so that walkers are not in danger.
As it stands now- a slow moving , non- racer, non-athletic , grocery carrying cyclist is liable for a ticket when cycling on a downtown street, while they look the other way for a sedgway tourist convoy that is actually comprised of motor vehicles and using the same sidewalks.
Somethig needs to be done. I can see the sedgways sharing any new bikeways that are built. But our planners have not even given us a bikeway on Penn Avenue or any of our most important and heavily travelled roads. They are asleep at the wheel.
by w on Jul 10, 2009 11:04 am
As to the "stupid laws" that prevent cycling on downtown streets and the supposed "SUPER WIDE SIDEWALKS IN DC" - I guess you live and/or work on streets where half the sidewalk isn't already taken up by outdoor restaurant seating. I guess you are live/work on streets where there are no people walking (people on sidewalks aren't looking for or aware of anything travelling at more than walking speed - and they shouldn't have to be. I guess you live/work on streets where there doesn't form a crowd at the corner (already reduced in size by the multitude of newspaper boxes at each corner) waiting for the light to change. Yeah - those laws keping bicycles off the sidewalks really are "stupid" aren't they?
by andy on Jul 10, 2009 11:16 am
You can start be not identifying those streets by their state road number. VA-7 = Board Street, VA US-29 = Washington Street.
by Sand Box John on Jul 10, 2009 11:33 am
by Reid on Jul 10, 2009 11:44 am
i understand your points about pedestrian safety and this is foremost on my mind- go to Cologne, go to Amsterdam, go to Muenster- and you will see exactly what I am espousing. and I agree with you about the outdoor cafes- there needs to be a rethinking about their being allowed to use public sidewalk space which should be about mobility first- not that I want to see them banned or discouraged- but there is certainly some way they can be accomodated while allowing more flexibilty on the cycling and pedestrian issues. On PaAv SE the cafes allow for very little pedestrian space at all- and yet there is a HUGE MEDIAN STRIP in the center of PaAv that goes UNUSED - IMO- either the sidewalks could be expanded here with a dedicated, barrier separated bikeway and pedestrian space - eliminating the median strip- or a bikeway could be placed in the median strip itself.
We do have very very wide sidewalks in DC- much wider than other east coast cities- but instead of getting all upset about cyclists using them- perhaps you could check out what HAS been done successfully in other places that works.
I get the feeling that you or someone that you know of has been hurt by a bicyclist. I am with you on this- and I happen to be a cyclist who is both cognizant of walkers and also one who goes slow and uses bells. If the cycling trends moved away from the obcession with racing and sports and speed- it will attract more people who are less inclined at present to cycle- women, elderly, kids, and those , like myself- who are averse to the danger of auto traffic. We really need to do this- and bikeways- as they are advocated by the likes of Anne Lusk and John Pucher- take the pedestrian into account .
another item here of note- many posts of the historic DC buildings and streetscapes made by Kent on this blog have made mention of the fact that many of our sidewalks have been encroached upon over the past decades- to make way for wider streets for cars. This trend needs to be reversed.
Bicyclists also need to move away from speed and racing
[ this is happening already]
and well thought out , multi - modal streets and sidewalks need to be designed. This , at present, is not being done here in DC. Bicyclists and pedestrians, sorry to say, are still afterthoughts while car mobility is first priority.The bicycle planners seem to cater only to the young male racing community which is also the most outspoken on these issues. A very very sad and closed minded way of doing planning. The planners have obviously not done their homework and have not reached out nor investigated other places- like NYC- that have started to implement dedicated, separated bikeways.
by w on Jul 10, 2009 11:55 am
The Better World Club is a much better alternative. I've been a member for five years and been happy with their service. Of course, I drive <5,000/year, and I've only needed it once -- for a dead battery, and I didn't get charged a cent for the jump.
Several years ago, NRDC published a report on the AAA's anti-environmental stands. The report doesn't seem to be available online anymore, but there is a Harper's article on the same topic on BWC's web site: http://www.betterworldclub.com/articles/harpers2002may.htm
Also, the Car Talk guys prefer BWC over AAA. Yaay!
by Banksy on Jul 10, 2009 12:14 pm
dude - making up ad hominem motivations of someone you don't know to answer their point is about the cheapest and most dishonest way to make discuss. Just sayin'
The fact of the matter is, anything moving at more than walking pace doesn't belong on a crowded sidewalk in a busy downtown. Until a whole new system is installed, the laws prohibiting bicyclists and segways on the sidewalk that protect pedestrians are far from "stupid". Try and get past your incredible sense of bicycle entitlement.
by andy on Jul 10, 2009 1:03 pm
You obviously are not taking the problem seriously and you are unwilling to see that I am trying to see your points in a fair way. You are totally ignoring an entire area and discipline of cutting edge urban planning for selfish reasons.
Perhaps you might wish to consider that having fewer cyclists in DC will mean more cars in DC- and cars are a hell of a lot more dangerous to pedestrians than cyclists .
As for the "dude" business- I am making a very reasonable attempt to reach out and converse with you by trying to understand your obvious hostility towards cyclists. You are coming across as a very inflexible person so I feel no need to consider your opions worth noting anymore.
by w on Jul 10, 2009 1:18 pm
Well, that's no problem then, is it? Because every suburbanite I've ever encountered lays the blame for every urban ill squarely at the feet of "stupid urban voters" with some blame left over for Marion Barry.
Since suburban municipalities are in the thrall of neither urban voters of Marion Barry, they should have this whole homeless problem whipped in less than a month at the most.
captcha: "horrify convention"
by ibc on Jul 10, 2009 1:51 pm
Yes, this can get annoying when there's a lot of traffic both in the roadway and on the sidewalk. But really, that's one of those things (like parking hassles) that come with having a lively urban area. I'll take the package, and ride my bike in the roadway and walk it on the sidewalks.
by david on Jul 10, 2009 2:13 pm
As a general rule, I'm not a big fan of transferring risk from myself to others for any reason...but especially for some spurious safety benefit.
Riding on the sidewalk in an urban environment at more than a brisk walking pace is one of the most dangerous things you can do on a bicycle (if you plan on crossing any streets/driveways).
At least until "w"'s utopia of comprehensive, segregated bike/segway trails is completed sometime in FY 2183... :)
by ibc on Jul 10, 2009 2:20 pm
When I finally got to the top, I asked the tour guide to let his group know that it's better etiquette to stand on the right and let people pass. His response: "No, I don't think I will, as this is the one and only time that they'll be riding the Metro in their lives." Never mind that they still had to ride the escalators out of the system.
Now, ever since I was young, people have stopped me to ask for directions and information all the time. Even when there has been a crowd of other people standing right next to me, it never fails that people go to me, so I guess I must look approachable. Accordingly, I'm always polite and solicitous when it comes to tourists. However, as I didn't hold out any hope for this twit of a tour guide to be reprimanded by AAA, I settled for a not-so-sotto voce epithet as I walked away.
by Craig on Jul 10, 2009 11:13 pm