Traffic
High ICC tolls show how expensive new freeways are
Many drivers are experiencing sticker shock at the proposed toll rates for the Intercounty Connector, up to 35 cents a mile during peak periods. The proposed toll structure is more expensive per mile than the turnpikes in neighboring New Jersey and Pennsylvania, and existing tolled portions of I-95 in Maryland. According to the Post, "the next-most expensive would be the Dulles Greenway's peak toll, which amounts to 28.5 cents a mile. Across the country, highway toll rates typically fall between 3 cents and 25 cents a mile, according to AAA. ... About one-quarter [of drivers] are projected to travel between the I-270 and I-95 corridors, facing a potential $5.60 rush-hour toll each way."
Why will the ICC be so expensive to drive? It's simple: the ICC is expensive to build, and proponents sold the road as a good deal because tolls would pay for most or all of the cost. But many voters and elected officials who supported the road didn't realize just how expensive it would be. Others reacted negatively not just to the size of the proposed tolls, but to the fact that driving on it will be tolled at all.Those who opposed the ICC from the start are getting to say a bit of "I told you so." According to the Gazette, former Environmental Defense transportation director Michael Replogle, who fought the ICC all along, said that the opponents knew the tolls would be high. Replogle also pointed out that even with high tolls, Maryland will be spending scarce general transportation funds on the ICC at the expense of other needs elsewhere.
The ICC's subsidy will go way, way up if pushback from residents or elected officials succeeds in reducing the tolls. Montgomery Councilmember Phil Andrews opposed the road in the first place, but is now trying to lower the tolls. Paying for much of the road's cost with tolls was the plan from the start. Most people just didn't realize how expensive it really is.
Much of the general public tends to see roads as "free" and transit as "fare-based." Fundamental road costs such as the gas tax, supplemental general government fund appropriations (the gas tax hasn't completely covered road-related costs for years), and the opportunity costs of car-dependent land uses are hidden from view on a day-to-day basis. The costs of ICC tolls will start to change that perception. There is nothing "free" about the ICC. The hidden costs aren't free. The up-front tolls won't be free, either. Future elected officials will be far more hesitant to build new highways because the continued increase in construction costs will make them more likely to require tolls. They won't want to be known as someone who is in favor of high highway tolls.
The public's ICC-related sticker shock could be a turning point in their perception of "free" roads. Rather than having a mental image of themselves driving on a traffic-free road as fast as possible with the wind in their hair, they will instead envision themselves paying tolls. A $6.15 one-way rush hour toll works out to over $2,900 a year for a two-way daily commute. Most of the public will not make the explicit connection that the tolls are in lieu of higher taxes. The money for the debt service related to building the road has to come from somewhere. Some will drive and pay. Some will drive and take another route. Some will switch to transit (if possible). Some will switch jobs. Regardless, the experience of the $12.30 per day toll will never leave the public's consciousness.
The era of where we could just throw up highways just for motorist convenience is over. It is a shame that it will take the extremely expensive, failed legacy of the ICC in order for this reality to seep into the consciousness of the general public — if it does at all. However, it is better late than never, and there is still time to act to prevent a $4.6 billion repeat on I-270. Neighboring jurisdictions in our region should learn from Maryland's mistakes with the ICC.
Maryland is holding a series of meetings on the ICC tolls starting tonight. You can also comment on the tolls via the Web site.
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However-
the idiots in charge in Maryland decided that anything other than cars & trucks is "environmentally"unsound or whatever. They will not even install a dedicated bikeway as it is too much for the "environment".
As I have said before- it is the Saudis and their spies in the sprawlzones controlling our transportation policy in the USA- this is why we are in trouble.
by w on Oct 19, 2009 11:43 am
If you really wanted to fund the ICC and do it with tolls, you should be tolling the beltway, 270 and 95. You toll the congested area.
The pricing schemes we have in this country are exactly backward. Denver has the same thing - they've been building and tolling a beltway around the city, while the congested roads in the center remain free.
Tolls raise revenue, yes - but they shouldn't be considered a substitute for actual investments that are needed. When you think of them as a 'free' financing mechanism, you end up with this.
by Alex B. on Oct 19, 2009 11:52 am
It's tragic.
by BeyondDC on Oct 19, 2009 12:07 pm
by Boots on Oct 19, 2009 12:49 pm
- The lengthy delays in starting construction on the ICC certainly have not helped the situation. Especially with what construction industry inflation was doing ca. 2002-late 2008, the costs have jumped considerably over what they would've been even 5 years ago.
- Right-of-way costs were a huge part of the overall ICC cost. While much of the right-of-way has been reserved for the corridor for years, it apparently wasn't purchased. Which means landowners got mid-2000s prices for their land vice 1990s (or earlier) prices.
- If you want to be perfectly fair with it, the issue with "hidden costs" applys to all forms of transportation, not just highways.
by Froggie on Oct 19, 2009 1:53 pm
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2009/10/the-upside-of-traffic/
by James on Oct 19, 2009 3:49 pm
http://wwwtripwithinthebeltway.blogspot.com/2009/10/ruth-abbott-widow-of-sammie-abbott-dies.html
by Douglas Willinger on Oct 19, 2009 4:35 pm
by Capitol Dome on Oct 19, 2009 5:57 pm
by Josh B on Oct 19, 2009 11:00 pm
by Gavin Baker on Oct 20, 2009 1:37 am
Gavin: correct, though Delaware isn't that wide, so one could make the argument that NE Maryland is a distant neighbor to SW New Jersey.
by Froggie on Oct 20, 2009 5:54 am
New Jersey has also had its share of highway fights. Remember that I-95 is incomplete between Trenton and the NJ Turnpike. They seem to have reached a compromise route but the costs have escalated and will escalate until its completion in 2014. Kind of like the ICC Read more about it here.
The person at the end of the block is also your neighbor. They're not your next-door neighbor but they're still your neighbor.
by Cavan on Oct 20, 2009 9:47 am
by Andrew on Oct 20, 2009 1:56 pm
by Roger on Oct 20, 2009 2:43 pm
by S on Oct 20, 2009 3:07 pm
by slangwhanger-in-chief on Oct 20, 2009 6:20 pm
I'm not convinced public transit can do much good. The public transit system is very much commuter based, and there's really no hope in changing that. And really, I think the Maryland suburbs are just too sparsely populated to come up with a good enough public transit system that people would lose their cars. Plus, the beltway has a lot of traffic from people either coming into, leaving, or simply travel through, the city. The metro is great for going to work downtown, at least if you live near a station, but isn't so great for running errands (plus it's pretty miserable to use it on the weekends). And it takes forever to get anywhere on the buses here, since they don't run very often and they stop so frequently (I went to grad school someplace with a great bus system, so maybe I was spoiled there).
Long term planning can help alleviate traffic problems by putting people closer to the things they need. But, I don't think a lot of people are getting on the beltway to get to their grocery store. And even if it could solve the problem, it would take so long to redevelop the Maryland suburbs that that really isn't a viable option in the short to medium term.
It seems like several approaches have to be done. Redeveloping areas, particularly those around metro stations, would help a little (I think the land around the Twinbrook station could be used much better). Improved public transit options would also help a little (though again, I think its hard to imagine having a significant impact on non-commuting trips). And yes, I think new roads can play an important role here too.
by Andy R on Oct 20, 2009 10:25 pm
I would love to be able to get a bus from Franconia-Springfield outside of rush hour. With the current commuter oriented bus, I can only go home between 4 and 7h30. It means that the latest I need to leave my desk downtown is 6h20. That is pathetically early. If I want to go out in DC, I have to drive and not drink, or shell out $20 for a cab. I would also love to take metro in the weekend when I go downtown, because parking can be a hassle. However, driving 20 min to the metro (there is no bus) and then riding metro for 40 minutes can not compete with the direct drive of 30 mins. And remember, parking on the Mall is still free. If you can find a spot.
by Jasper on Oct 20, 2009 10:48 pm
Have you given any consideration to any of the un-built Washington, D.C. freeways?
The initial plans:
http://wwwtripwithinthebeltway.blogspot.com/2006/12/1950-62-plans.html
JFK's Reduced Freeway Plan with Expanded Transit- featuring the "Y" route B&O North Central Freeway:
http://wwwtripwithinthebeltway.blogspot.com/2006/12/1962-national-capital-transportation.html
The initial North Central Freeway engineering study which sharply deviated from the JFK plan with 37 routes slicing upon all new swaths through residential and park areas:
http://wwwtripwithinthebeltway.blogspot.com/2006/11/1963-64-north-central-freeway-study.html
The supplementary North Central Freeway engineering report, released November 1966 which essentially reflected the JFK proposal- however officials would waffle between this plan and the far far more imp-active 1964 plan as late as 1968, stoking anti North Central Freeway sentiment.
http://wwwtripwithinthebeltway.blogspot.com/2006/11/1966-north-central-freeway.html
The 1971 rendering of this highway, with it entirely in a cut and cover tunnel from a few hundred feet north of MIchigan Avenue to just south of Rhode Island Avenue:
http://wwwtripwithinthebeltway.blogspot.com/2006/11/1971-deluew.html
The 1971 rendering of the cross town I-66 North Leg West K Street Tunnel, replacing the 1955 proposal for this highway via a new swath alongside Florida Avenue and U Street, below grade to the west of New Jersey Avenue and easterly as an elevated berm:
http://wwwtripwithinthebeltway.blogspot.com/search/label/North%20Leg
by Douglas Willinger on Oct 20, 2009 10:59 pm
Douglas Willinger: I'm not sure I understand. To some extent, the ICC is just a portion of the outer beltway, though I think it's running on a different path than originally intended for a variety of reasons. Are you suggesting any of those plans as a direct alternative to the ICC, and do you really think they're any better? Certainly people could argue at length over different routes, but mainly I just meant that I think we need some sort of new east-west freeway in the northern suburbs.
by Andy R on Oct 21, 2009 7:52 am
Its either the ICC is a bad idea because of so-called future Commuter traffic Backups or the ICC is a bad idea because not everyone will use it because of the tolls which means that the ICC will not have Commuter Traffic Backup.
You can not have it both ways its one or the other because saying one thing and saying something diffferent a few years lateer is in defining of Contridiction in which it makes the argument against the ICC Useless and will fall on deaf ears.
by James on Oct 22, 2009 3:47 am
Itching to talk about the ICC? 2 hearings ahead this week.
By Katherine Shaver
Sunday, October 25, 2009
Then I though back to what I read in the Washington Post article that sparked Cavan Wilk post above. Then I figured it out.
The Maryland Transportation Authority (MdTA) manages and operators 7 toll facilities in the state.
Thomas J. Hatem Memorial Bridge (MD US-40 Susquehanna River)
John F. Kennedy Memorial Highway (MD I-95 Susquehanna River)
Fort McHenry Tunnel (MD I-95 Baltimore Harbor)
Harbor Tunnel Thruway (MD I-895 Baltimore Harbor)
Francis Scott Key Bridge (MD I-695 Baltimore Beltway)
Harry W. Nice Memorial Bridge (MD US-301 Potomac River)
William Preston Lane Jr. Memorial Bridge (MD US-50/301 Chesapeake Bay)
All of these facilities facilitate the crossing of navigable shipping channels. It appears the folks at the MdTA have decided to use the tolling formulas that they use to set the toll at their exiting facilities for the ICC (MD-200). The ICC is a road not a bridge or tunnel. The MdTA should rethink their tolling formulas so they more closely match the tolls that are paid by users of similar toll roads.
by Sand Box John on Oct 26, 2009 12:07 am
by Froggie on Oct 26, 2009 10:22 am
When the MdTA maintained John F. Kennedy Memorial Highway originally opened. All of the interchange between the Baltimore Beltway and the Susquehanna River had unattended toll booths on them. MdTA removed them because it cost more to maintain toll booths then the revenue collected. The barriers were continently being knocked down.
by Sand Box John on Nov 2, 2009 11:10 am
I-66 K Street Tunnel cancellation had a ripple effect by diverting east west traffic to the north. So would the cancellation of the I-95 PEPCO-B&O connection to a degree.
Take out the upper half of a hub and spoke assembly will tend to make the outer wheel work harder. Perhaps a law suit against WMATA and Covington & Burling for reducing transport choice?!
http://wwwtripwithinthebeltway.blogspot.com/2009/10/ectc-paid-to-riot-via-covington-burling.html
by Douglas A. Willinger on Nov 2, 2009 1:34 pm