You can see (from the enlarged view) the outlines of the current layout for direct comparison, which is certainly helpful.

Also, judging by where the Parsons drawing has cutouts placed, there will (should, rather) be crosswalks on one side of Louisiana across all of Mass; from both sides of Delaware to the Mass median, joining there to cross the rest of Mass; and on one side of 1st across all of Mass. Doesn't look like they plan on a crosswalk at E.

by Adam on May 30, 2008 6:22 pm  

Improvements for pedestrians and taxis is great, but where are the buses supposed to go? There's an enormous amount of loading-unloading that happens out front of Union, which would gum up traffic good if there isn't a specific area set aside for buses.

by John on May 30, 2008 7:31 pm  

Lest there be confusion, I meant Metrobuses, not tour buses or Greyhound.

by John on May 30, 2008 7:35 pm  

The Circulator stop has already (or temporarily?) moved to the garage on the H Street side of Union Station. Big improvement - no one gets wet waiting for the bus.

by bus rider on May 30, 2008 10:25 pm  

As usual the traffic engineers rule the land. Looks like most of the turning radii are like 30-40 feet. All to get traffic through there FAST!

by Boots on Jun 1, 2008 12:55 pm  

What about the H St streetcar? Where might that have a stop at Union Station? I'm not trying to sound panicky...just curious.

by steve on Jun 2, 2008 10:00 am  

Figuring that out is one of the goals of the Union Station Intermodal Transportation Center project. I suspect it won't be on Columbus Circle, but instead on the newly rebuilt H Street side of the complex, or inside the new concourse, or something like that.

by David Alpert on Jun 2, 2008 10:03 am  

This is exciting. The curly-Q has never made much sense to me. Although I get the sense that at some point there must have been a pass through there, which they removed for some reason. Is there a risk that the cars will back up?

I agree with you on the Congressional parking lots. It's pretty atrocious. It's particularly embarrassing for the more environmental of the Senators and Housemembers. It opens them up to the whole "lear jet liberal" charge when they try to enact strict environmental restrictions, yet stare out over a sea of suburban-plated SUVs. They should clean up their own backyard before they take away incandescent light bulb, god damnit!

by Reid on Jun 2, 2008 6:30 pm  

It looks as if they are planning to remove the obnoxious concrete obstacles blocking the crosswalks that cross from the station to the Thurgood Marshall building.

Hopefully this will actually happen. Those things are an absurd hazard.

by juanfe on Jun 3, 2008 11:35 am  

Not bad -- I appreciate having one less traffic zone to cross when I walk from one side of Union Station to the other.

If it's not too late, I wish they would take the opportunity to straighten E Street. There's parking lots on both sides of it, so it should be really easy to work out the property issues. The result would be that E and Louisiana would hit Columbus Circle at the same point. That should be safer for cars and pedestrians -- you'd have one stop with a traffic light where Mass Ave traffic would know to stop, instead of an irregular dribble of cross-traffic and cross-walkers that Mass Ave drivers are naturally tempted to cut off.

by tom veil on Feb 17, 2009 11:12 am  

Is there any plan to remove the homeless people that congregate in and around the plaza? Every morning I walk through the plaza on my way to work and without fail there is human excrement left on the Columbus fountain. The structure basically turns into a human toilet once the sun goes down and its the real reason the water has been removed. The worst part about all of this is that the fecal matter remains on the fountain uncleaned for days until it is eventually either washed away by rain. If anyone doubts this, just go take a look at the fountain today there were at least a few areas that have been soiled.

Its absolutely disgusting to see children and tourists leaning on the fountain, not knowing what exactly they are leaning on.

by Victor on Mar 4, 2009 8:44 am  

Victors observation indicates a need for public toilets at this site, for everyone to use including the tourists and children in his anecdote. Uncontained human excrement is bad for everyone. It's more then disgusting. It can spread serious diseases. See John Snow's influence on urban planning.

by Bianchi on Mar 4, 2009 9:11 am  

The poop problem is a big one, to be sure.

However, There are public restrooms in Union Station. I've seen many a bum in there that were damn near bathing themselves in the sinks, so I don't think security is too discriminating.

by Alex B. on Mar 4, 2009 9:20 am  

Alex B., they're not using 'em. If they were, there wouldn't be a poop problem at that site. If the goal is to get people to use a toilet the solution is to Reduce the barrier to toilet use and put a toilet at the site where the poop is. It might not work, but it has a better chance of working then not reducing the barrier.

by Bianchi on Mar 4, 2009 11:20 am  

I think we are missing the point here. These aren't tourists pooping on the fountain. They are homeless people with nowhere to go and apparently too lazy to go into the station to use the restroom like a normal person.

I say, install dividers on the seating area which makes it impossible to lay down. That would force people to spend the night sleeping upright instead of all cozy like they were in a bed. Beef up security. Chase the vagrants from the area.

A port a potty won't work, and neither would a public outdoor restroom. It would be a place for people to cause trouble and deal and use drugs.

by Victor on Mar 4, 2009 11:26 am