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When stocking up for the weekend, think about your long-term emergency kit
Residents are buying up bottled water, canned food, and more in advance of Hurricane Irene. It may cause some prolonged power outages and damage, but it looks to be worse for people in other cities.
Besides being prepared for Irene, this is a great opportunity to think about what you need for an emergency kit in general. Ready.gov has a list of items to stock, as does the DC government.
At the top is food and water. Ready.gov suggests one gallon per person per day for at least 3 days, or in short, 3 gallons per person who lives in your house.
ArlNow reported that the Potomac Yard Target was already out of bottled water last night. Veronica Davis tweeted that if bottled water isn't available, you can fill up existing liquid containers like milk jugs, filter pitchers, and more from the tap. That also saves on the environmental costs of bottled water.
If you do get bottled water, don't just drink it after the storm passes. Don't eat all your canned food right away. Put it in a basement or the bottom of a closet in case there's another disaster of any kind, possibly a worse one than Irene.
Chances are that after this storm, most of us will forget about emergency preparation until a few days before the next storm. But it's best to have a kit set up ahead of time. There are companies that sell packaged kits; after the Japanese tsunami, we bought one of those to get all the first aid items, plastic sheeting and duct tape, and a hand crank radio and cell phone charger all in one place, then bought a few days' worth of water and canned food to store with it.
What are you doing to prepare for this or a future emergency?
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by spookiness on Aug 26, 2011 2:12 pm • link • report
And a flashlight isn't a bad idea either.
by Gavin on Aug 26, 2011 2:23 pm • link • report
Personal story for Hurricane Andrew. 3 adult humans & 2 golden retrievers in a small interior bathroom. Our light was a candle. In the height of the storm, when we all should have been terrified, we started dozing off. When we cracked open the bathroom door, that onrush of oxygen woke us all up. I would try and avoid candles if possible - go for flashlights/LEDs.
by Erin M on Aug 26, 2011 2:33 pm • link • report
by Elle on Aug 26, 2011 2:49 pm • link • report
by aaa on Aug 26, 2011 2:50 pm • link • report
by Alison on Aug 26, 2011 2:57 pm • link • report
by Erin M. on Aug 26, 2011 3:03 pm • link • report
by engrish_major on Aug 26, 2011 3:06 pm • link • report
by Colleen on Aug 26, 2011 4:04 pm • link • report
http://www.slate.com/id/2288031/
by mattxmal on Aug 26, 2011 4:10 pm • link • report
by David Alpert on Aug 26, 2011 4:17 pm • link • report
The forecast is calling for a drizzly Sunday and a bright, sunny Monday. This will be on par with the t-storms we had through July. It will happen within the next 24 hours and end a few hours later. Nothing to be alarmed about.
Sure, people out in Burke, VA or Carderock, MD may want to prepare more. But everyone who lives in Arlington, Alexandria, the District, etc. -- relax. Even if the power goes out, you're not going to be stranded anywhere.
by Sam on Aug 26, 2011 5:06 pm • link • report
One thing we have on our side...aren't all our water systems gravity-fed? The reservoirs won't be kept full without power, but it seems like a heck of a buffer. The water treatment may stop, but I am not sure I understand the need to fill the bathtub so I can flush the toilet.
But I agree - I've never understood the "buy tons of perishables!" instinct.
On the other hand, I totally disagree with the comment on NYC - that is potentially quite serious. Should they just blow it off?
by DavidDuck on Aug 26, 2011 5:20 pm • link • report
But overall, yes, pure panic. I think DC just wants the natural disasters other regions get, although I am waiting for my first wildfire.
Has nobody heard of UHT treated milk? I what is wrong with luke-warm water?
by charlie on Aug 26, 2011 5:22 pm • link • report
by TGEOA on Aug 26, 2011 6:41 pm • link • report
Takes about 2 hours to build up enough CO2 at that rate to be a hazard with the five people in an 8' cube room.
by Michael Perkins on Aug 26, 2011 7:41 pm • link • report
Anyway, I plan on stocking up on water and canned goods. I've got a propane stove and a balcony to cook on, plus a girlfriend 1/2 block away with a fridge full of extra food from her out-of-town roommates. Starvation will be difficult, although I should find me a radio & crank phone charger.
by OctaviusIII on Aug 26, 2011 7:46 pm • link • report
by Sam on Aug 26, 2011 7:47 pm • link • report
by Kate W. on Aug 26, 2011 8:44 pm • link • report
If you eat 2400 kcal of food a day, that is 100 kcal per hour. If you get that from sugar or starch ((CH2O)n) which is about 4 kcal per gram, that means you are burning 25 g sugar an hour. CH2O is 30 g/mol, so you are making 5/6 of a mol of CO2 per hour, or (not showing work) 20 l/hr, or .7 SCF. Sorry, could not resist repeating your work. In an 8'x8'x8' room that would give you CO2 levels way over 1500 ppmv if the room is shut up tight...but yes, plenty of O2 remains. (I think it is basically impossible to consume O2 enough to harm yourself without building up deadly amounts of CO2 first). Ventilation people consider 1000 ppmv of CO2 an upper limit, levels higher than that (in an office or similar setting) indicate poor ventilation. If you have 3 people in that room for an hour, you are approaching NIOSH standards (5000 ppm for 8-hours, which would be a lousy 8 hours).
Meanwhile, I have scientifically estimated that candles also burn about 20 g/hr, by guessing that this here candle would last 4 hours (I massed it on a $2 scale). That is actually going to produce more CO2 than 25g of sugar, because candles are basically paraffin, eg (CH2)n. So, of that 20 g of wax, 17 g is carbon, which will create 1.4 mol of CO2 per hour. Compare to the human, which creates about 5/6 of a mol per hour of CO2. My estimate is pretty crude, but unless I am leaving something out, I think candles make as much or more CO2 an hour as the people.
by DavidDuck on Aug 26, 2011 10:14 pm • link • report
We are told not to rely on candles but that is because of the fire hazard. (which is certainly no joke, especially if the wind gets dangerous.) but far far more dangerous is things like campstoves and generators that pump out the CO. Every big storm seems to lead to a couple CO poisoning deaths. Beware!
by DavidDuck on Aug 26, 2011 10:18 pm • link • report
I am no vegetarian by any means, but salads and fruit do very well without power. Just got home with a bag full of melons, peaches, bananas, apples, tomatoes and lettuce. I got some bread, and I will not go hungry for days.
by Jasper on Aug 27, 2011 1:22 pm • link • report
So in the sealed room, you're more worried about CO2 buildup, and the candle is worth about 2 people.
by Michael Perkins on Aug 27, 2011 1:53 pm • link • report
I don't think you can burn anything "normal" and use up the oxygen before you poison yourself with the combustion products. The only exception I can think of at all is hydrogen. And if you burned enough hydrogen in a small room to use up all the O2 in the room, it would be really hot. (But if you worked at it maybe you could use up the O2 before you cooked yourself.)
Power is flickering here, so I cannot elaborate more! But basically, air is 20% O2, and CO2 is dangerous at 1% or less. For most fuels, the ratio of O2 consumed to CO2 produced won't be any higher than 2, so you get problems with CO2 before you lack O2. When you fly commercially, the O2 is lower by a couple percent (since the cabin is lower pressure than sea-level) and that is no problem at all for healthy people.
by DavidDuck on Aug 28, 2011 12:16 am • link • report
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