Transit
Suburban buses needn't baffle inexperienced riders
In many suburban jurisdictions, bus systems feel like an afterthought, with tiny bus flags at the side of a road and confusing or even nonexistent information about which bus to take.
Most suburban routes run less frequently than Metrobus routes in DC, making them harder to use. But it would cost a lot of money to increase frequency. Meanwhile, for a very small investment, jurisdictions like Fairfax County could make buses much easier to use with simple wayfinding improvements.
Bus stop flags should identify the routes that stop there; believe it or not, at least in Fairfax, they don't today. And buses should add automated announcements of the next stop.
Since the buses are so infrequent, better wayfinding is even more critical. If a rider misses a stop or misses a bus while waiting at the wrong stop, he or she could end up waiting an hour for the next bus, or have to take a very long walk to the destination.
Fairfax's county government offices are difficult to access by public transit. Only two Fairfax Connector routes serve them. But not all residents can afford to or want to own a car, and those who can't or won't drive are at a decided disadvantage in being able to fully participate in society.
I had to visit the county seat two years ago to register to vote in Virginia; my permanent address was then my parents' house in Kingstowne. I had to register in person during office hours, but my parents both worked. Living in the District and lacking access to a car, I took the Metro to Vienna and then took a Fairfax Connector to the county office.
I had never been to the county offices before and I wasn't familiar with the area. The stops weren't announced, so I had to be extra careful about when to get off. I ended up getting off the bus too early and had to walk the rest of the way.
When I left the office, I walked to what I thought was the stop for the bus back to the Metro. The bus stop sign didn't have the route number. Suburban streets also aren't marked as clearly as city streets, so finding the intersection where my bus stopped wasn't as easy.
It turns out I was at the wrong bus stop, but as the bus approached, I was able to hustle to the correct stop, which luckily was nearby. If the stop flag had been marked, I would have known at which stop I should wait. If I had missed the bus, I would have had to wait at least 30 minutes for the next one.
When traveling after dark, it can be hard to identify bus stops while on the bus. Announcing the stops would make it easier for riders to know where they are. Stop announcements don't always work, but having them fail sometimes is better than not having them at all.
Adding route numbers to bus stops signs would require a minimal investment, but would make it much easier for riders to know if they are in the right place. Fairfax Connector route numbers are often shown on shelters, where they exist, but not on stop flags. Metrobus, Montgomery's Ride On and Arlington's ART, on the other hand, show route numbers on almost all stop flags. Ride On's even show the route's ultimate destination, so you don't find yourself on the correct route but going the wrong way.
Automated stop announcements require that buses be equipped with GPS, which is a bigger investment. Ride On is piloting real-time tracking, which would be useful for the Connector. GPS tracking could also bring NextBus' ability to predict how many minutes until the bus arrives to Fairfax Connector riders.
More attractive, easier to understand bus service can make suburban communities easier to navigate and reduce the need for driving. These two wayfinding improvements won't suddenly bring residents out of their cars. But they can make life easier for current bus riders and make buses a better option for those hesitant to ride.
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by AWalkerInTheCity on Nov 9, 2011 4:06 pm • link • report
I am not sure about the announcement of the next stop. On a LED sign it might work out, but I would oppose audible announcements. That would be an annoying disruption of the peace in the bus.
Meanwhile, the shuffle of the bays at Franconia-Springfield is also a disaster because the bays have multiple buses leaving at the same time. This leads to buses standing at different bays that schedules, which leads to plenty of confusion.
Finally, why weer you registering to vote in VA while living in DC?
by Jasper on Nov 9, 2011 4:08 pm • link • report
ADA law. Find yourself a blind friend, get him on the bus, get him lost, and enjoy the thousands of dollars in lawsuit monies. Make it rain baby.
If buses are too old to have automated systems, the driver MUST announce every stop.
This isn't optional.
Also, a more immediate course of action would be "excuse me driver, could you tell me when we reach x stop".
by JJJJJ on Nov 9, 2011 4:15 pm • link • report
I would like to add three suggestions to yours that would make suburban bus travel more pleasant:
Fairfax Connector should publish its data so that its buses can be added to Google maps. This will make it easier to plan a trip using their buses. Speaking of publishing data, transit sites need to make sure their data is up to date. To give an example, GoDCGo currently shows a WMATA bus line 12 in Centreville on its map that has not existed for years.
Connections between multi-agency buses could be much better. Virginia Regional Transit's Dulles2Dulles bus always seems to arrive at Dulles airport when Metrobus 5A to DC has just left.
Buses should not be afraid to cross county lines. Fairfax residents would benefit from buses to Dulles airport or Dulles town center.
by Max on Nov 9, 2011 4:16 pm • link • report
At the time, I was a student at Georgetown but my permanent address was Fairfax County.
I think audible announcements alone would be annoying. I've heard Circulator drivers do it and it's usually garbled and too loud. I'm thinking the announcements should be the same as on Metrobuses, with the LED screen and voice.
by Jamie Scott on Nov 9, 2011 4:32 pm • link • report
by Bossi on Nov 9, 2011 4:36 pm • link • report
That may be, but it's an unenforced law. The only place where I've ever heard understandable stop announcements was in Kyoto Japan - and my Japanese does not go further than domo arigato.
Anywhere else in the world, every single audible bus stop annoucement sounds like "GRBRBGBRBBGBRBBG GBGBRBRBGRRBGR". For every single stop.
So, until there are bus drivers that can enunciate (in the local language), and speaker systems that do not deform, no audibles for me please. If I want to listen to "GBRBBGBRBBGBGBRBGBB", I'll listen to System of a Down or Slayer.
For the time being, that disqualifies virtually every bus in the world.
That said, I would not know the name of my bus stop.
by Jasper on Nov 9, 2011 5:12 pm • link • report
And here we are regularly complaining that students don't take an interest in local politics...
by Jasper on Nov 9, 2011 5:13 pm • link • report
That's a fair point. At the time I didn't realize that I could have registered to vote in the District. I also wanted to be able to help Virginia go for Obama that year. Either way, I had to change my voter registration, which had been in WV. But that's beside the point.
Regarding compliance with ADA and automated stops, I also rarely hear drivers announce the stops themselves. But I have seen drivers help blind passengers before or tell a rider when the bus approaches a particular stop, if they have asked.
by Jamie Scott on Nov 9, 2011 5:23 pm • link • report
The ADA requirements didn't force us to announce every stop, just major landmarks and transfer points, or any stop specifically requested by a passenger. That typically translated to every stop around major commercial areas and every few stops elsewhere.
by dal20402 on Nov 9, 2011 5:35 pm • link • report
by Roger on Nov 9, 2011 5:53 pm • link • report
Just because the DC area likes to pretend blind people dont exist (ie, perfectly clear doors closing message, but no stop message) doesnt mean the technology and law isnt there.
As I said, it's a fairly simple lawsuit. Someone with standing needs to start hitting that cash pot. It's a bottomless pit of delicious taxpayer money just prime for the taking.
by JJJJJ on Nov 9, 2011 7:11 pm • link • report
by Ken Conaway on Nov 9, 2011 7:59 pm • link • report
I take Fairfax Connector routinely and in the rare occasion a driver announces the stops it is totally inaudible. And some of these are brand new (less than 1 year old) buses.
by Joshua Davis on Nov 9, 2011 8:30 pm • link • report
Chris
Chris Hamilton
Arlington County Commuter Services
by Chris Hamilton on Nov 9, 2011 8:52 pm • link • report
http://onlinepubs.trb.org/onlinepubs/tcrp/tcrp_rpt_46-a.pdf
http://www.embarq.org/sites/default/files/EMB2011_From_Here_to_There_web.pdf
by Richard Layman on Nov 9, 2011 9:43 pm • link • report
cf. http://www.flickr.com/photos/rllayman/34786415/
by Richard Layman on Nov 9, 2011 9:45 pm • link • report
It would be nice, when bus routes pass near each other, for the buses to wait up to 3 minutes or so for the next bus to connect. That goes for Metrobus in DC too, but it's less crucial in the city.
by Omar on Nov 10, 2011 2:54 am • link • report
Fairfax's excuse in not doing so would be one that I'd love to hear but they seem to run Connector in a shroud of secrecy. Remember when they claimed their Google data was bundled with WMATA and yet they still haven't joined nearly a year after WMATA did?
by Jason on Nov 10, 2011 8:28 am • link • report
Actually, such a timed-transfer exists in the Metrobus system.
When the Greenbelt area bus routes were redesigned last December, the community wanted to be sure that people from each neighborhood on the west side could get to each neighborhood on the east side (without waiting up to an hour to transfer).
The result was the creation of the timed-transfer between route G12 and route G13/G14/G16 at Greenbelt Center (Crescent Road and Gardenway). Eastbound buses arrive at the stop and wait for 5 minutes before departing.
I actually find this frustrating, because it adds 5 minutes of just sitting at the stop to my travel time. But then, I'm a very rare user of the timed-transfer; I ride straight through on the same route on my normal commute.
by Matt Johnson on Nov 10, 2011 9:04 am • link • report
Fairfax Connector 305. Half of the buses has severe maintenance issues. Some can't get up to 55 mph, some can barely get up hills, others leak when it rains. Oh, it's a joy. NOT. And that's aside from the circuitous route.
That said, it's not like metro's announcements are crystal clear. Half of them garble up in the speaker system, and the other half suffer from lack of enunciation. Don't think that a tourist will understand "Urng Lin-Nah Crlton".
by Jasper on Nov 10, 2011 10:08 am • link • report
In all fairness, many tourists wouldn't understand "Orange Line to New Carrollton", either.
But it would be great if WMATA could bring automated stop announcements to Metro. I'm hoping they'll hire the guy who does CTA's announcements.
by Matt Johnson on Nov 10, 2011 10:59 am • link • report
Anything audible is a lot more complex. Not only sound quality is an issue. The message is an issue as well. As is the volume. There are places where metro is so loud I can not hear my ipod at max volume [e.g. the tunnel between Reagan and Braddock]. There long stretches where my ipod does not get over the roar of an accelerating bus.
I can imagine a lot. In fact, I've lived it, in Kyoto. They even had English announcements there at the more touristy stops. Fantastic. But it's not something you can easily implement. As an engineer, you should appreciate that.
Let's start with putting route numbers and schedules on bus stops, and with LED screens. I would welcome those, because it would actually help me. Suburbia is very generic in the dark.
Perhaps then start thinking about the requirements that would allow audible announcements in new buses.
Meanwhile, normal maintenance is my hope for the Fairfax Connector. Honestly, it is not safe when buses do 35 max at the Fairfax County Parkway during rush hour.
by Jasper on Nov 10, 2011 11:42 am • link • report
by Colleen on Nov 10, 2011 5:19 pm • link • report
I think it's only the oldest of old metrobuses that don't have the LED stop announcements. The screens on the metro are useless though as most of them only display the train color and not the stop.
by MLD on Nov 10, 2011 7:39 pm • link • report
Read my posts. I don't ride metrobus. I ride the Fairfax Connector. The bus service of the second richest county in the nation. And let me assure you that even the newest Fairfax Connectors do not have LED screens.
by Jasper on Nov 10, 2011 9:09 pm • link • report
by Kevin on Nov 10, 2011 10:11 pm • link • report
by Ginger on Nov 11, 2011 7:01 am • link • report
Wayfinding and overcoming long headways are crucial to utilizing transit in the 'burbs, and there are a lot of good ideas in here that could be applied to any suburban bus system.
by OctaviusIII on Nov 11, 2011 1:53 pm • link • report
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