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Why can't we do some of this?
Within a year of Janette Sadik-Khan taking the reins at New York City's Department of Transportation, they got new plazas, "cycle track" buffered bike lanes, express bus lanes, Summer Streets, and more.
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by NikolasM on Nov 19, 2008 5:39 pm • link • report
by Lilly on Nov 19, 2008 5:55 pm • link • report
We're not unique in that respect, so I'm by no means disparaging the city... in fact in other places I've lived, their DOT doesn't even try, lacks any meaningful funding, and/or are wedded to cars.
by SG on Nov 19, 2008 6:26 pm • link • report
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by Lance on Nov 20, 2008 12:27 am • link • report
by Jasper on Nov 20, 2008 9:24 am • link • report
by FourthandEye on Nov 20, 2008 1:06 pm • link • report
How about all those intersections where the State Aves cut at odd angles?
How about most of the little squares and circles downtown?
Nearly all roads downtown are pretty wide. The park and bike switch could be done in plenty of places.
And DC could also use a couple of good bus lanes. They could be placed on roads parallel to the main route. Such roads could be closed for all but bus and bike traffic (and inhabitants).
The problem with 'duh' ideas like this is often that people simply can't imagine it.
The Netherlands make the big shift for bikers in the late 80s and early 90s. So, my high school time, I had to bike to school between cars, and while in college they started making seperate bike lanes. First just with a line, then painted in (big difference) and later physically separated (often by taking out car lanes). Result? A massive drop in accidents, safer biking, and no more gridlock.
The point is to give everybody their own space on the road, and to lead cars to understand that not the entire road is theirs. Just marking lanes, and separators at intersections can make a major difference in safety and behavior.
Oh and, please, can we get a bunch of decent roundabouts in the suburbs? Check France for how awesome those can be for traffic flow. Remember, traffic *never* stops are a traffic circle. There is *always* flow. This opposed to a traffic light or a stop sign, where you *always* have a stop in flow.
by Jasper on Nov 20, 2008 1:29 pm • link • report
Seems to me that in the east end of downtown, other than maybe Pennsylvania Ave NW, there isn't anywhere wide enough to put a plaza in the middle of a the street that doesn't already have a triangle park or traffic circle. I don't think our roads are as wide as NYC. They mention to cross 23rd it was the length of two football fields. We don't have that here. You could probably put a modest sized landscaped median on Connecticut but not a big median plaza for lounging.
Many of the streets they show in the segment seem to have been take down from 3 lanes in one direction to 2 lanes in that direction. Drivers can adapt to that more easily than the drop from 2 lanes to just 1. On a major corridor you need the second lane because often one lane is blocked by a driver trying to turn.
by FourthandEye on Nov 20, 2008 2:56 pm • link • report
You might say: they already have some benches. That is true, but they are very depressing places. And hard to get too.
My point: there is a lot of waste real estate in downtown DC. With just a bit of good will, they can be turned around in wonderful areas. As long as you're willing to give pedestrians a bit more leeway.
Freedom Plaza (Penn between 13th and 15th) is the only place where I sometimes see people hang out. So that's the only only one I can think of that's somewhat successful.
by Jasper on Nov 20, 2008 5:44 pm • link • report
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