Parking
Free Metro parking for inauguration?
Metrorail set its highest-ever ridership record on Friday, July 11th, with a combination of a Nationals game, high gas prices, conferences and summer tourism driving over 854,000 people to the trains. But everyone expects that record to pale in comparison to January 20, 2009: the inauguration of President Obama.
And Metro is getting ready. Yesterday, they released plans for the day, including rush-hour service all day, commemorative SmarTrip cards, and security-related closings of Archives and one entrance at Smithsonian. And parking will be free.
Wait, what?
Parking will be free at all Metrorail operated lots throughout Inauguration weekend, from Saturday, January 17 through Tuesday, January 20, 2009. Metro has nearly 59,000 parking spaces and they are expected to fill up. Reserved parking rules will not be in effect.If they expect all of the parking spaces to fill up, why lower the price? If anything, suburban riders will be more likely to want to avoid the traffic-choked roads of DC. I doubt many, or even any, people will say, "hm, I was going to ride Metro to inauguration, but instead I have to pay to park. I think I'll take my chances and drive downtown." They'll sure pay downtown, too.
Metro stands to earn big revenue dollars from this day, which they need to shore up their financial situation. But then, they're skipping a big piece of their revenue stream, which only benefits suburban riders over city riders. Those of us who pay extra to live in a walkable area don't benefit.
Metro is also only charging off-peak fares all day. That's less completely unfair to DC and Arlington residents (though still somewhat unfair), but again, why? They're expecting huge crushes of people. Why cut the price? All of those tourists would certainly pay $1.65 per ride within the city on Inauguration Day. But the extra 30 cents can really add up.
Metro does have its reasons. According to yesterday's WMATA board meeting, it's general policy to make parking free on all federal holidays. That probably means public hearings to change the policy and exempt the inauguration. Also, many parking lots only work with SmarTrip, and visitors will get stuck at the gates without a SmarTrip.
There are surely alternatives, like paying one person to manually attend a line with a portable credit card reader. For all the money they'd get, Metro can afford to solve the problem in a slightly less efficient way. At the same time, Metro's top priority is making sure that all the trains run smoothly and we don't see headlines like "MAJOR CHAOS ON METRO; THOUSANDS TRAMPLED TO DEATH." They're focusing their energy on that.
Unfortunately, thanks to technological and policy obstacles, the car-dependent suburban riders get a free pass on the most costly part of their rides, and the rest of us just get squeezed.
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by rockcb on Nov 21, 2008 9:58 am • link • report
In the grand scheme of things, we want to encourage as many people to use Metro and mass transit to access the city on that day. Yes, Metro parking is a scarce resource, but we'd much rather have people parking on the fringe and then taking transit in.
Also, consider the fact that many people arriving will be from out of town and not familiar with Metro, nor would they be equipped with SmarTrip cards that are required to pay for parking.
Your arguments about scarcity make sense in the limited scope of Metro, but in the larger scope of planning for the event as a whole, they're not as strong.
There's also, without a doubt, a political element to this, and I doubt Metro wants to step on any toes.
Is it a giveaway? Yes. But in the context of planning for special events, that's not necessarily a bad thing.
by Alex B. on Nov 21, 2008 9:59 am • link • report
Why on Earth should the local transit agency price its services below market rate? Surely WMATA can use this opportunty to capture revenue without gouging visitors. If you offer rush hour service all day, is it too much to charge rush hour fares all day?? Of course not.
Regarding parking, the same thing applies. Why should someone complain about paying for something they are using? Surely WMATA can figure out a solution to the influx of people without Smartrip cards. Commemorative cards sold on the spot using extra staff with cc readers makes sense. The cost of parking and commuting will not affect demand because the downtown parking will be at capacity.
by Ward 1 Guy on Nov 21, 2008 10:26 am • link • report
PS David, my hand hurts from typing the captcha words for every comment and each preview. When you get a chance I'd love to see the site allow regular visitors to get cookie'd in or logged in for a smoother experience. Otherwise, the blog totally rocks.
by Ward 1 Guy on Nov 21, 2008 10:34 am • link • report
by David Alpert on Nov 21, 2008 10:37 am • link • report
The WMATA Board of Directors this morning approved the procurement of the 7k cars.
Metro gets OK to seek new rail car design
November 21, 2008 - 9:31am
Adam Tuss, WTOP Radio
by Sand Box John on Nov 21, 2008 10:39 am • link • report
Also I agree with a user function if you can do it.
by Boots on Nov 21, 2008 10:44 am • link • report
As per Metro on Inauguration Day, it seems they're doing their best to figure out how to avoid complete meltdown in moving double the number of passengers. January 20 is poised to be an extraordinary day in ever sense of the word for our region; I think it's best we suspend our squabbles and just try to get through it as gracefully as possible.
by Matt on Nov 21, 2008 11:10 am • link • report
Also, with only 35,000 commemorative smartrip cards sold, what's the consensus for how much they will be worth on eBay? $100, $200? Why should WMATA only charge $10 for these?
On the bright side, I'm going to probably put my off-street parking space up on craigslist. Anyone want to suggest a rate? It's next to the East Falls Church metro (2 blocks) and available all day. If it goes for $50 or more, I'll consider moving my own car into the metro station parking lot at 4am and sell them both.
by Michael Perkins on Nov 21, 2008 11:18 am • link • report
On another note Metro should not only charge for parking on the 20th they should raise the rates. Metro need to milk this for all it is worth! Hell even having a bucket to collect cash is better than nothing at all.
by RJ on Nov 21, 2008 11:38 am • link • report
Ok, but as an accounting matter, couldn't you also say "remember that the Metro is not only bringing in $9/day, it is also bringing in a car parker that is spending around $5 for parking"?
Why give all the revenue credit to parking? In the end, they are intergral to each other (although the parking garage is more dependent on the Metro rather than vice versa. You can have a metro stop without a garage if you have density. A garage without a metro stop is just a park'n'ride, which not many people are going to pay for.)
by Reid on Nov 21, 2008 12:13 pm • link • report
I'm going to take advantage of the days off and go to Florida anyway.
by Tom on Nov 21, 2008 12:41 pm • link • report
I can sort of understand that the downtown streets will be chaotic, but there are any number of bus routes that terminate at outlying stations that can reasonably be expected to have high demand, because they serve areas far from Metrorail. The A buses coming to Anacostia come to mind, plus the buses that terminate at RI-Ave. And probably lots that terminate at suburban stations.
Hell, if they don't want to run all the way downtown, at least let the 70s run Silver Spring--Shaw Howard, and the 50s run Silver Spring--Columbia Heights, and let the X2 terminate at Union Station.
On any of these routes, with the infrequent Saturday schedules in place, I can imagine unbearable crowding on many of these routes.
by thm on Nov 21, 2008 12:42 pm • link • report
by RJ on Nov 21, 2008 12:47 pm • link • report
And charge on-peak rates for on-peak service, for Pete's sake. It's a cash cow, and although a few savvy people might walk/take a bus/taxi (in a group), it'll be a net benefit without much increased cost per person (and much of it borne by tourists).
This is a big opportunity to subsidize service for the rest of the year, without much downside. It'd be a shame not to capture it.
by Gavin Baker on Nov 21, 2008 12:47 pm • link • report
by Bianchi on Nov 21, 2008 12:51 pm • link • report
Not true. Franconia is higher than the Van Dorn stop because it's the end of the line stop - whereas closer in park and ride stops are capturing only local parkers, those in outer suburban areas (as far as 30 miles out from the station, are going to be parking at the outermost station)
by Jare on Nov 21, 2008 12:56 pm • link • report
by Bianchi on Nov 21, 2008 12:58 pm • link • report
by DC_Chica on Nov 21, 2008 1:12 pm • link • report
Closer in parking is much smaller and fill up faster, while end of the line stations have much bigger garages and take longer to fill up. It has little to do with distance than the time window to find parking.
by RJ on Nov 21, 2008 1:19 pm • link • report
Apparently Metro is concerned with transporting customers on a blockbuster day, not with maximizing revenue.
Parking is always free on holidays. Your suggested employee standing around with a credit card reader would rightly provoke outrage when the agency will need as many hands as it can get down on the platforms and mezzanines, helping with the crowds.
I'm just puzzled at this bit of outrage.
by Omari on Nov 21, 2008 1:27 pm • link • report
I know that's not how an economist thinks, but we shouldn't always think like economists.
by Ben Ross on Nov 21, 2008 1:48 pm • link • report
Also, with regard to funding, I suspect that the Feds are ponying up for Metro to do this. Usually, if you want an increase in service, you have to pay.
Ben is right, we shouldn't always think like economists.
by Alex B. on Nov 21, 2008 1:52 pm • link • report
by stevek_fairfax on Nov 21, 2008 1:56 pm • link • report
Ben Ross: Should all Metro fares be free? Why just parking?
by David Alpert on Nov 21, 2008 1:59 pm • link • report
by stevek_fairfax on Nov 21, 2008 2:01 pm • link • report
Bus riders are going to be seriously pissed, what is the logic in having Metrobus run Saturday service. The bus routes will already be messed up because of street closing then the fact of there running on Saturday service and you likely wont be able to tell where to catch a damn a bus at downtown will only make things worst.
WMATA needs to come up with a better way of informing bus riders of disruptions or detours if you go on WMATA's site and read the bus detour descriptions you get confused as hell to say the least, dear WMATA how about coming up with a map showing the way the buses normally go and the detoured route instead of trying to figure out what street is what. Just like during the street closures around Judiciary Sq. about a week and a half ago the D6 route was going all over the place and no one could tell you where to go to catch it.
There making the subway have rush hour service plus off peak fares, where the hell is the discount for bus riders since the routes will be cut in half, shortened and service will be terrible.
by kk on Nov 21, 2008 2:02 pm • link • report
I don't think any of this will make much difference if the city is getting 3-4 million extra people. Metro will fill up 5 seconds after opening.
In the vein of 'gracious hosts,' has anyone done a parking-space census? We may actually have something like enough parking spaces in the city, if you count every facility that built peak-usage single-purpose spaces. Passing some rule that allows all of them to be used for all-day parking for one day with no penalties would seem to be advantageous, given how much they would benefit our economy by spending time on-foot rather than sitting in gridlock.
by Squalish on Nov 21, 2008 2:04 pm • link • report
by Squalish on Nov 21, 2008 2:07 pm • link • report
REPEAT to WMATA: Put busses on rush hour/peak service schedule too - or at least regular schedules (rush hour/peak in a.m. and p.m.)
Don't MARC and VRE run all day on regular weekdays anyway? Are they planning on going to a Sunday schedule? (that's a bad plan)
This is like planning for the olympics for a day.
by Bianchi on Nov 21, 2008 2:41 pm • link • report
by RJ on Nov 21, 2008 2:44 pm • link • report
At the risk of sounding a bit smug, I sure am glad that I live within walking distance of the inauguration/parade route.
by Hiya on Nov 21, 2008 2:47 pm • link • report
by Tim on Nov 21, 2008 3:16 pm • link • report
But the thing is, once the parking lot is full, you're not going to serve any more customers. WMATA politically won't be able to charge a rate so high the parking lots don't fill up, so it's not a matter of whether customers are served or not, it's a matter of a half-million dollars in revenue or not.
Plus, if WMATA charges for spaces, then more people will carpool (if you have to pay $10 per space, why not ride with a friend or neighbor and save the extra parking fee?) and the average number of riders per car will go up.
If you don't charge, the lot fills up at 6am with on average lower occupancy cars. If you do charge, the lot fills up at 7am with slightly higher occupancy cars, and WMATA gets half a million dollars in revenue they can use to run more buses.
Basis: 57,000 parking spaces * ~$10 per space = ~$0.5M
Times: Wild guess. I'm sure the lot will fill up early, and that it will be earlier with free parking than with paid parking.
Buses: Run 1,000 buses for eight hours. Bus operation costs about $10 per mile, and average 15-20 miles per hour. Total: $1,200,000-1,600,000 for the day. WMATA has 1,500 buses total, so running 1,000 buses is a significant fraction of the absolute maximum service possible. Buses recover between about 10% and 50% of their costs at the farebox.
$10: There is a price high enough that the lot doesn't fill up during the peak, but I think it's higher than $10. Considering many of the lots fill up early in the day for normal rush hour at a price around $5, and this is a once-in-a-lifetime event where apartments are renting for thousands per night, I think $10 is a reasonable assumption.
by Michael Perkins on Nov 21, 2008 3:45 pm • link • report
This is not about transit. This is about transit's role in a major special event. If Metro is looking at 1.6 million riders, that's essentially double the previous high. You're going to see that the majority of those new riders will have little idea of how to use the system. Charging for parking would be seen as piling on and fleecing patrons to a national event of great significance.
You can disagree with that all you like, but there's a political reality here that few seem to have acknowledged. Furthermore, you have to remember how Metro fits into the overall planning for the event. It is a vital link, and they want to make it as easy as possible. The off-peak fares mean the fares are also much easier to understand and predict for new riders.
Also, as I mentioned earlier, I'd be very surprised if WMATA isn't also getting paid to do this by the Feds. The quid pro quo with that assistance for an event like this, however, is that you don't 'gouge' the visitors and customers, no matter how justified it may be.
It's also entirely plausible that paying people to operate cash parking at Metro lots would be a money loser in terms of labor and delay (when compared to open gates, people lining up without smartrip cards, etc.).
You want to get as many people on Metro as you can for this event. Hence, subsidy is warranted.
Frankly, anyone questioning this decision from a standpoint of revenue is approaching it from the wrong direction. This is a once in a lifetime event - it's not the time to pinch pennies.
by Alex B. on Nov 21, 2008 3:57 pm • link • report
We need to ask ourselves, what would the political fallout be if WMATA "thought like an economist" rather than a compact agency caught between various political factions and dependent on all of them for its funding?
As an economist, I often get into discussions with other economists about whether various models and thought experiments are valid at all. Often, profit maximizing models fail to take into account all the complications of the real-world applications... kind of like cost estimates for building infrastructure.
by Cavan on Nov 21, 2008 4:02 pm • link • report
by David Alpert on Nov 21, 2008 4:04 pm • link • report
Would it be worth it? By all means. Will WMATA do it? Who knows?
I know from the last finance, administration and oversight committee hearing they're running about a $5.5M surplus from two months of operation this year. It's from higher fares and increased ridership combined with lower than expected costs. If not spent, that money gets returned to the local governments.
WMATA has a small surplus approximately twice the size of what I estimate it would cost to run rush hour buses on the busiest ridership day of all time.
by Michael Perkins on Nov 21, 2008 4:07 pm • link • report
Even still, I can see why WMATA chose the course of action they did. It seems to be an attempt to serve many masters at once. It's gotta be a tough political calculus.
by Cavan on Nov 21, 2008 4:09 pm • link • report
These parking garages are going to fill up with or without a charge, so we may as well charge. Metro doesn't need to fleece anyone, but they don't need to give wild discounts either.
And yeah... MARC and VRE should run constantly, but they probably don't have the choice. The freight railroads own the tracks and most likely aren't suspending activity.
by BeyondDC on Nov 21, 2008 4:11 pm • link • report
by tom veil on Nov 21, 2008 4:30 pm • link • report
There are many issues discussed in this blog where an overly simplistic, short term analysis, appling some Econ 101 lessons, ignores important issues, such as externalities, peak load pricing or public goods. This is but one example, and describing this simplistic analysis and similar analyses in the blog as "thinking like an economist" gives real economists a black eye.
Like many others here, I think that WMATA should be running the buses on at least a weekday schedule or a modified weekday to facilite getting visitors and workers downtown. As with the fourth of July, there should be strict rules against carrying bicycles, coolers, etc. on the Metro. For those who suggested collecting cash at the parking lots, perhaps you forgot about the scandal that led to the SmartTrip only policy for paying for parking.
by Another economist on Nov 21, 2008 4:31 pm • link • report
The entire Beijing Olympics only recorded around 7 million visitors, and only 400k from overseas; Presumably, many of these were single-day or single-event tickets spread out over two weeks - no single day had this many people. For this, road traffic was shut down, a hundred miles of subway were built, a solid decade of constant construction took place, hundreds of thousands of houses were demolished and people displaced, a body larger than our coast guard was devoted to weather manipulation, every hotel in the city learned English and filled up, entire new tourist infrastructure was built at every notable site.
Beijing's normal population is ten times the size of DC, and much more able to absorb such a flood.
IF these upper estimates are reached, the busy parts of the city are going to shut down. Metro will not be available for love or money, only patience with the hours-long lines. Prudence would suggest calling up every transit agency in the northeast corridor and borrowing buses for the day, then running everything for free. Because adding even a million cars to our roads is going to result in a lot more passenger-hours than tourist-hours on that day. Metrobus doesn't get paid by the minute.
I'll still be there. Just because.
Anyone have a "Crowd survival handbook"?
by Squalish on Nov 21, 2008 4:51 pm • link • report
RE: buses: If WMATA is anticipating parking lots to fill up (which as discussed above will certainly happen with free parking), how else are suburbanites supposed to get to MetroRail? Not buses, apparently. Paraphrasing THM, riding a bus during the equivalent of rush hour with a Saturday schedule will be miserable. I don't think many tourists are likely to take buses, but as long as parking is free and the bus service isn't amped up, I don't see many suburban "riders of choice" going to Metrobus either.
by Lance B on Nov 21, 2008 4:55 pm • link • report
Another economist hit on many of my points far better than I did. There's a lot more at stake here.
by Alex B. on Nov 21, 2008 5:23 pm • link • report
Please explain. How would asking people leaving parking lots between 4am on January 20th and 4am on January 21st to either swipe a Smartrip card or hand an attendant a $10 parking card which you bought at a fare machine hinder WMATA's ability to move people quickly and safely through the system?
... or longer term factors such as the goodwill associated with a smooth running transportation system. Those factors would be part of a good economic anlaysis...
I'm going to go with Lance B and bring up the bad will that would be brought up if someone tries to go to a metro station and finds the parking garage full at 5:30 or 6:00 am, then finds that there are few to no buses because WMATA is running a Saturday schedule. It's not like by charging $10 for parking, WMATA is going to decrease ridership (again, assuming that's below market equilibrium).
. . .There are many issues discussed in this blog where an overly simplistic, short term analysis, appling some Econ 101 lessons, ignores important issues, such as externalities, peak load pricing or public goods. . .
Please explain how these concepts apply in the case of parking pricing for a high demand event where the short run supply curve is essentially a vertical line. Regardless of what price WMATA charges (assuming it's underneath the price that would keep the lot from filling up), the same number of cars will be parked at the station at the peak. The externalities of congestion, pollution and whatnot will be the same because charging for parking is not going to reduce the number of cars parking at metro stations (again, we're at below equilibrium pricing here). If you've got a better analysis as an economist other than parking should be given away for free, please share.
I'm not sure I know what you mean by peak load pricing, but this might be an example of where peak load pricing would be a good idea. This will be a peak load event, where discounted off-peak fares will only lead to more consumer surplus and greater externalities because the system is so congested that no increase in customers served is possible. In fact, the network may be so congested that consumers are harmed by having to endure the crowded trains, platforms, and elevators associated with crush load.
Public goods: That's usually not associated with parking. Except in the low-density suburbs or rural areas, parking is not a public good because it is both rivalrous and excludable. When I park in a space, it prevents you or others from parking in that space (rivalry). If I have control over a parking space, I can choose who I easily exclude from parking in that space by towing unauthorized parkers (excludability). A better example of a public good is the beauty of the Lincoln Memorial, which is neither rivalrous (up to a certain point), nor excludable.
...This is but one example, and describing this simplistic analysis and similar analyses in the blog as "thinking like an economist" gives real economists a black eye.
Like many others here, I think that WMATA should be running the buses on at least a weekday schedule or a modified weekday to facilite getting visitors and workers downtown. As with the fourth of July, there should be strict rules against carrying bicycles, coolers, etc. on the Metro...
I can agree with you there that the Econ 101 approach doesn't always work because people aren't always rational consumers or producers. For what WMATA should do, they should be treating the buses like the trains and running them on a weekday schedule at the very least, and be prepared to run them like crazy to deal with the loads. The normal rush hour or 4th of July rules should be in effect to help with loading.
...For those who suggested collecting cash at the parking lots, perhaps you forgot about the scandal that led to the SmartTrip only policy for paying for parking...
That's because they were collecting cash, and cash tends to disappear. If you set up the fare machines to dispense $10 parking cards that are worthless other than to hand to the attendant on your way out, you've taken out a lot of the fraud available (other than maybe bribing the attendant with $5 to let you out of the parking lot). A lot of airports have gone to the prepaid cards system, I don't know if it's to combat fraud or to simplify processing or cut down lines or what.
I mean, I'm not an economist by trade, but I know that giving things away for free usually makes it so you run out quickly and piss people off.
Who does WMATA want to make happy, people who want to park super early in the morning for free, or all the customers it could serve with the extra revenue they get from the people that are willing to give them money?
It's like the "real economists" are trying to tell us that the supply and demand model only works in some very narrow cases, rather than generally with a few well-researched exceptions.
by Michael Perkins on Nov 21, 2008 7:03 pm • link • report
I can't wait to see what happens when people start to realize that everyone was promised everything ... by someone who's never delivered anything ... in his whole life.
On second thought. Let's just shut the Metro down that day!
by Lance on Nov 21, 2008 9:13 pm • link • report
by The King of Spain on Nov 21, 2008 9:19 pm • link • report
Good economic analysis relies on specifying the objective function correctly, as well as the constraints. Supply and demand functions should take into account many factors, and would include information about how consumers (and producers) actually behave, so you comment about behavior simply points to instances in which a more complete model was necessary. Of course, some of the factors included in WMATA’s objective function might be difficult to quantify, and I would include The King’s addition, but difficulty in quantifying factors does not mean that they should be ignored. This is a much more complex problem then the Econ 101 problem that you described.
In terms of the other types of complications that I listed in my earlier post, externalities, peak load pricing or public goods, the failure to consider those issues related to poor analysis that has been posted in other sections of GGW, not the discussion of WMATA’s decisions about how to operate on Inauguration Day. Correctly defined objective functions and constraints will give you analyses that consider these issues.
by another economist on Nov 22, 2008 8:10 am • link • report
Please cite more specific examples and how the analysis could have been improved. I'm always up for learning. What do you mean by an "objective function"? If there is a clear policy that improves social welfare, is that not good enough?
Are you really advocating a policy that would result in a severe shortage of parking at metro stations?
by Michael Perkins on Nov 22, 2008 12:42 pm • link • report
I would suggest that those downtown employers who can give their people the day off should do so. And it's be a great idea for neighborhoods in the city to have their own inaugural festivities. If there's a party on U Street where folks can watch and listen to the Inaugural Address, they won't feel compelled to go to the mall.
January 20th promises to be a great and historic date in American history. But those of us who live here should be about foreseeing the many logistical problems it will bring and figuring out how to alleviate at least some of them.
Free parking at Metro is small beer when compared to the larger issues of access and public safety we will face.
by Mike Silverstein on Nov 22, 2008 12:43 pm • link • report
by Lance on Nov 22, 2008 3:51 pm • link • report
by jd on Nov 24, 2008 1:01 am • link • report
It sounds like your answer to "the District does not have democratic representation at the national level" is "if you don't like it, move."
by Michael Perkins on Nov 24, 2008 7:31 am • link • report
There's no doubt that DC gets hosed, in budgetary terms, from the strain that events like this put on MPD and other local agencies - but that's part and parcel of being the nation's capital.
I've talked to WMATA about increasing service for other special events, and they are always quite cognizant of the cost implications of what they do. In short, I trust their judgment on this and I also feel that it fits in well with the larger issue of special event planning.
by Alex B. on Nov 24, 2008 10:06 am • link • report
But by reognizing this problem now, we could get started on changes to give them more flexibility in the future. A time like this is the only time to bring it up.
As for the feds paying something, I don't know how to respond to this. It took a Herculean effort to get a bill passed for the feds to kick in some of the cost of their many employees riding Metro every day. Contributing for this event would similarly take an act of Congress, and I see no chance of that. I doubt Norton will be able to get any money even for the immediate direct cost of the event itself, but good for her for raising the point.
by David Alpert on Nov 24, 2008 10:52 am • link • report
To me, it seems like the Board had the opportunity to ask about changing the policy and advertising a hearing to change the fares or parking fees just for January 20, but they decided by inaction that the policy was OK.
I don't know how plausible accepting cash or having the vending machines vend parking passes would be at this stage. I just think it's unfortunate that it appears WMATA waited until we had a president-elect to start planning for an inauguration. I guess if McCain were elected we wouldn't have 3-4 million people coming to visit? Maybe WMATA thought it was just going to be a normal busy inauguration day, not the crush-load Obamocalypse that's causing people to rent out their apartments at $1000 per night.
They make both sets of "Super Bowl Champions" hats so they're ready at the final whistle. WMATA could have at least had the designs and contracts ready to go for the commemorative smartrip cards, and had board approval already lined up with maybe the final price and quantity as an option.
The way it is now, they're struggling to get as many cards as they can, and they're having trouble with the timeline to the point that the cards that are sold before inauguration day are not going to be preloaded with any value.
by Michael Perkins on Nov 24, 2008 1:14 pm • link • report
I'm sure they thought about it, but there are certain things that they just can't take action on until the details are set in stone.
Furthermore, despite the discussion of whether it could be done or not, I still think you're glossing over the political points of whether it should be done or not. Even if there isn't a quid pro quo for WMATA funding, even if there isn't the best revenue choice, there's more to it than just that.
by Alex B. on Nov 24, 2008 1:51 pm • link • report
Political points or not, I'm going to be pissed if WMATA has to ask for a fare increase next year if they overlook reasonable revenue sources like charging people for parking on the busiest metro day of all time. I'm not "glossing over" anything, it's just that the "political points" don't "pay the bills".
Let me repeat that, the busiest metro day of all time. Why not charge the people who are using it that day?
by Michael Perkins on Nov 24, 2008 3:09 pm • link • report
by stevek_fairfax on Nov 24, 2008 3:30 pm • link • report
...Because this is clearly all about you. There will be millions that need to be served in addition to you. And what if you get pissed? Are you going to bang your tiny fists on the ground?
Sarcasm aside, I'm just trying to make a point about WMATA having to serve a bunch of masters on this one. We don't know who they all are. We don't know who promised what to who. I'm sure there are some practical considerations regarding getting over a million people around that we can't really consider since we're not under pressure to do so.
The Metro was built and operates more out of political realities and serving its constituent member jurisdictions. It has not been an endeavor that has had a realistic chance of paying for itself since the mid-'60s before WMATA even existed. This reality will be present on January 20th, too.
by Cavan on Nov 25, 2008 10:42 am • link • report
The benefit to the millions from charging for parking will be all the additional bus service that could be provided with the revenue.
I just don't see how not charging for parking and charging off-peak fares is consistent with WMATA's compact, which states in part: "as far as possible, the payment of all costs shall be borne by the persons using or benefiting from the Authority's facilities and services". In this case, charging for parking will be possible because it will not affect the number of spaces actually used. They're going to fill up anyway.
From the audio of the board meeting, I didn't hear any evidence of serving a bunch of masters or political considerations. WMATA told the board they planned on free parking but that it would be crowded. The chair (Chris Zimmerman) questioned free parking, and WMATA told him that it was because it was a federal holiday. It didn't seem like the discussion got any further than that.
And I don't just advocate for policies to keep fares low for my own health and pocketbook, there are hundreds of thousands of riders out there, and all of them would be hit by another fare increase if one is necessary.
I understand that there are political considerations at stake here, but I just don't see how free parking will improve any of them. The system is going to be crowded like we've never seen, and low parking fees are just going to make it "crowded-er".
Metrorail is getting within striking distance of paying for its own operating costs. It ran a 90% cost recovery ratio in July-August of this year, turning out a surplus over expected budget. If ridership stays high and WMATA has another fare increase we could get to the magic number of 100%. Bus and Metroaccess are another story.
I've made all the arguments I can. I don't know what more to say. Charge for parking but increase bus service is all I got.
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