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G2 bus to Georgetown U won't resume until spring semester
When DDOT's renovation of O and P Streets in Georgetown completed last month, students expected the main Metrobus serving Georgetown University to resume its route to campus. To their surprise, WMATA announced last week that the G2 route will not resume its normal route until December.
Under normal circumstances, the G2 follows O and P Streets through the neighborhood all the way to the main gates of Georgetown University, but for the past 18 months it has ended at Wisconsin Avenue.
ANC Commissioner and Georgetown student Jake Sticka said, "This is particularly unfortunate given that the new campus plan bans students from having cars. This is an unexpected hardship for students going to internships in town."
WMATA spokesperson Dan Stessel says that because WMATA believed utility work would continue after the September street renovation, "service restoration was included in the next schedule pick, which is December." Metrobus operators select routes based on seniority in what is known as the pick system.
As it turns out, there is no utility work happening on the G2 route right now. In fact, DDOT won't allow digging on the affected streets for 3 years, unless there's an emergency, to protect the street work that was completed.
Nonetheless the G2 won't go to the university until December, because restoration wasn't in the schedule pick.
Stessel says "no one should be surprised, as this is what we said we would do all along." Some ANC commissioners, though, said they don't recall hearing of any delay.
Communication with residents was a source of frustration in the early months of the O & P renovation project. DDOT responded with a website and other improved communication to help residents change their routines to avoid construction hassles.
Without the G2 bus, students and university employees can get to Dupont Circle using the University-provided GUTS shuttle and the D2 and D6 Metrobuses. These routes pick up from the west and north ends of campus. That's a good walk from the classrooms on the east end of campus and from the off-campus housing where many students live.
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by Tom Veil on Oct 4, 2012 3:39 pm • link • report
Good thing, then, that the neighbors have prevailed upon the University repeatedly to modify the Dupont GUTS route to make it as circuitous and inconvenient as possible. New to the current campus plan is the stipulation that once DDOT allows a left turn onto Canal Road from campus during rush hour, all GUTS buses will be required to enter/exit campus via Canal Road. The Dupont GUTS will have to take Whitehurst Freeway and a route through the Foggy Bottom/Dupont area from the south that will turn it into a potentially 30-40 minute trip during rush hour, compared to the 12-15 minute ride it is now.
Thanks, neighbors!
by Dizzy on Oct 4, 2012 3:45 pm • link • report
The issue isn't that there's no viable route for the buses to go. It is that the bus drivers picked that route on the assumption that it would only be so long/time-consuming/difficult. The preferences of bus drivers holding seniority cannot be compromised by something as piddling as the needs of the riding public. What do you think Metro is, a public service?
by Dizzy on Oct 4, 2012 3:47 pm • link • report
[Deleted for violating the comment policy.] Register your car in DC if it is so important. There is no ban, simply a very basic requirement. If you choose not to do so, got bus/metro/bike share. [Deleted for violating the comment policy.]
by flanagan on Oct 4, 2012 3:49 pm • link • report
There are actually two larger issues. The first being lack of a consolidated stop on the Dupont side. The only place D2/D3/D6/G2 stop together is at 22nd & P, so you have to choose whether to wait for the G2 or not. NextBus helps a bit with this. The other thing is D2/D3/D6 are very, very bunched in the morning, with all 3 frequently running in a line. I think this is scheduling, not traffic causing it. Also very frustrating when you miss them, because it's 10 minutes until the next one.
by kstne on Oct 4, 2012 3:51 pm • link • report
... register your car in DC if it is so important to you. There is no ban, simply a very basic requirement. If you choose not to do so, got bus/metro/bike share.
I'm not sure how "registering in DC" is relevant. Read the language in the Campus Plan:
Subject to reasonable, very limited exceptions, all Traditional Undergraduate Program students (as defined in Condition 9) shall be prohibited from bringing cars to campus or parking their cars on the street in Georgetown, Burleith, and Foxhall. Violations of the revised parking policy will be part of the Code of Conduct.
Nothing in there about registering your car in DC.
by Dizzy on Oct 4, 2012 4:05 pm • link • report
"All Traditional Undergraduate Program students (as defined in Condition 9) shall be prohibited from bringing cars to campus or parking their cars on the street in Georgetown, Burleith, and Foxhall. Violations of the revised parking policy will be part of the Code of Conduct."
Doesn't matter if you register with DC to satisfy the recently passed RPP modification, you still can't park in 20007.
by Jake Sticka on Oct 4, 2012 4:07 pm • link • report
by Marian Berry on Oct 4, 2012 4:15 pm • link • report
by Georgetown Student on Oct 4, 2012 4:40 pm • link • report
Let it also be said that the G2 has got to be one of the slowest buses out there. Going around both Dupont and Logan circles - not the best routing. I wonder how adding this additional leg will impact headways.
by Ben on Oct 4, 2012 4:45 pm • link • report
There are clearly other public transit options, although less convenient to these portions of campus. I'll be very happy when this service finally resumes.
by WL on Oct 4, 2012 4:46 pm • link • report
by Kolohe on Oct 5, 2012 6:24 am • link • report
Crocodile tears from the ANC, because that same ANC has forced the GUTS shuttles to take massive detours. It's one thing to openly oppose everything that GU wants. It's another thing to laugh in their faces when you achieve what you want.
@ flanagan:Register your car in DC if it is so important.
To register a car, you need to own it. A lot of students loan a car from their parents. And that's aside from the fact that it would not matter as others have pointed out.
by Jasper on Oct 5, 2012 8:08 am • link • report
Note: I support unions in principle, but unions like ATU 689 give organized labor a bad name.
by Phil on Oct 5, 2012 8:47 am • link • report
by steve strauss on Oct 5, 2012 11:21 am • link • report
Metrobus is a vast, complicated network where every resource is meticulously scheduled, including the deadhead trips to and from the garages to the starts and ends of routes. While the frustrations with schedule adherence make Metrobus often feel like a free-for-all for riders waiting for late buses, schedules do exist, and cover every second the bus is out of the garage. It is simply not possible to implement a change to this complex web every time a street reopens after a construction project ahead of schedule.
by MDE on Oct 5, 2012 12:26 pm • link • report
Reasons why I don't buy that:
1. A whole slate of bus schedule changes just went into effect October 1. It has been clear that the project would be finished by mid-September for quite awhile now.
2. What is required here is not some complex re-engineering of the schedules, with many attendant follow-on effects, but merely a reversion to the previously existing schedule. A return to the status quo should be much simpler, since all of those timings, coordinations, etc. already existed.
3. As best I can tell, the only real schedule adjustment that went into the curtailed G2 was having the bus idle at its new terminus (Wisconsin and Dumbarton, outside of Five Guys) for the length of time that it would've taken the G2 to complete its original loop to 37th Street and back (about 5-6 minutes). So the actual adjustment should be very simple - just get rid of this idling time!
by Dizzy on Oct 5, 2012 1:13 pm • link • report
by Will on Oct 5, 2012 5:01 pm • link • report
by Transport. on Oct 5, 2012 5:51 pm • link • report
Absolutely not. Georgeotown (the neighborhood) got exactly what it wanted: less bus service to GU. After all, Georgetown is a quiet neighborhood in a rural area of the country.
by Jasper on Oct 6, 2012 6:26 pm • link • report
Anyway, more to the point, in an e-mail to me back in July James Hamre, Director of Bus Planning at the Metro Board said, "The G2 will be returned to its regular route when construction on O and P Streets is completed and the roadway is restored, which is expected to occur in fall 2012."
by John Flanagan on Oct 7, 2012 5:53 pm • link • report
The GU-Neighbor spat is irritating to watch. I feel really badly for the students caught in the middle of this nonsense. And stuff like this (getting the city to spend a ton of money on them while inconveniencing everyone else) really just makes the neighbors look bad.
by Ronald on Oct 8, 2012 9:53 am • link • report
Less riff-raff, you see..
by Dane on Oct 8, 2012 2:33 pm • link • report
by Nathanael on Oct 9, 2012 5:21 pm • link • report
by Martha on Oct 10, 2012 9:30 am • link • report
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