Comments on New Jersey Avenue streetscape plans change slightly - Greater Greater Washington

Comment by bbb20009

Sat, 29 Dec 2012 16:48:51 EDT

Has there been any discussion of allowing left turns from eastbound New York Avenue onto northbound New Jersey Avenue (at least during non-rush hours)? Living up in that area (off of New Jersey Avenue), it would definitely be a convenience.

I've often wondered why it's not allowed now. Is it considered impractical to allow the turn because of the volume of traffic on New York Avenue, or is it meant to reduce the use of New Jersey Avenue as a commuting route?

Comment by kk

Sat, 22 Dec 2012 14:31:20 EDT

Why not just get rid of everything at the intersection of New York Ave, New Jersey Ave, 3rd Street and M Street and start over.

They should just get rid of 3rd Street and just have New Jersey Ave going north/southbound and New York Ave going southwest/northeast bound and M Street should be accessible only from New Jersey Ave.

M Street should be made two way to 1st Street NE where is.

The reason for getting rid of the Pedestrian bridge is bulls**t concerning a block away. if they wanted they could build a bridge just get rid of the tiny green spaces north of New York Ave and there could be entrances there and beside Bible Way.

They cant do something that would actually help pedestrians but did the whole redesign at New York and Florida Avenues that actually made traffic worst for all.

@ Mtvernon

What do you consider valuable for the area? I consider something valuable that is accessible by all; so that kills any type of highend property, animal park etc.

Comment by andrew

Fri, 21 Dec 2012 14:27:06 EDT

Also, the pavement on New York Ave is somewhat complicated by the incredible amount of traffic that the road gets. If you make a left turn onto Penn Street from NY Ave, you can feel just how deep the wheel-ruts are in the road. It's like driving across speed bumps.

Comment by andrew

Fri, 21 Dec 2012 14:25:09 EDT

Man, I just wish there was a better way to deal with New York Ave (other than tunneling from 395 to 50). The traffic between Florida Ave and Mt Vernon Square is horrendous almost 100% of the time, and it's such a huge barrier to pedestrians and cyclists.

At least the pavement might get a bit better. Maybe they can hire some more engineers to take a look at Florida & Rhode Island while they're at it. That intersection's had astonishingly poor pavement for as long as I've lived here.

Comment by Paul

Fri, 21 Dec 2012 11:25:42 EDT

@wd. Yes, bumpy pavement can increase braking distance considerably, even with ABS. Still, it's ultimately the responsibility of drivers to judge their speed and following distance to account for conditions.

Comment by Mtvernon

Thu, 20 Dec 2012 21:11:40 EDT

I live near here on M street and like the updates. I am curious about what the plans are foe the new lot that will be created (currently just listed as "landscaping". DDOT could probably pay for much of the project by putting out bids for the lot (and perhaps get something valuable there for the area).

Comment by Geoffrey Hatchard

Thu, 20 Dec 2012 16:15:55 EDT

dirteng: "Geotechnical investigation" isn't in quotes in a "scare quote" fashion - it's simply to let people know that's the exact phrase that was used in the presentation.

Comment by dirteng

Thu, 20 Dec 2012 14:55:22 EDT

Hello Neighbor,

I am your local friendly geotechnical engineer. We often perform site investigations - it may sound funny, but it is a profession. So there is no need to use quotation marks. Just trying to make an effort to empower our work!

@dirteng

Comment by wd

Thu, 20 Dec 2012 14:48:35 EDT

"rear-end crashes occur often on New York Avenue because of poor pavement quality"

huh?