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Topic of the week: Walking in unexpected places

Even the most hardened pedestrians can find themselves in areas where driving is the default way to get around. In those places, going for a walk can be a provocative act, met with stares and questions.


Photo by Elvert Barnes on Flickr.

Still, some of us make the conscious choice to walk or bike somewhere even in places where it's not obvious to others. Our contributors share some of their funnier stories of when people didn't understand why they just didn't drive.

David Versel: I typically walk up to the Metrobus stop for my morning commute, which is about 0.5 miles from my house in Springfield. I am ALWAYS the only adult pedestrian about, but there are usually middle school kids walking to or waiting at their school bus stop. I have gotten scared looks from these kids many times who probably think I'm a pedophile cruising school bus stops.

It's just another casualty of car culture that suburban kids automatically assume that adults should always be in cars, and that those who aren't are probably sex offenders.

Dan Reed: In high school, I usually walked to my friend's house for a study group. One day we had an argument, as 15-year-olds often do, and I stormed out. As I unlocked the front door, her mother ran into the room in a frenzy.

"Where are you going!?" she asked, and I said I was walking home. (This is how far apart our houses were.)

"Don't worry, I'll give you a ride," she said. I said it was okay, but she relented, and went back to get her keys. She came back and said, "Alright, let's go." I felt terrible asking her to go through the trouble, so I said "Um, I changed my mind and I'll stay here," and returned to sulk in the basement with my friends.

David Alpert: When I was in Los Angeles once, I was staying with family friends in Brentwood and was at an event on Wilshire Boulevard just south of Brentwood. When I was ready to leave, I realized that the cross street we were right near was also one of the main cross streets near their house, so I walked the approximately 1.2 miles to their house instead of calling for a ride.

When I got there they were flabbergasted that I had walked.

Matt Johnson: I can do ya one better. And this conversation did happen. Word for word.

The first time I was ever in LA, Ryan and I stayed at a hotel one block from the Vermont/Santa Monica subway station. We got in fairly late, and we really just wanted to go to bed, but we hadn't eaten. On the one block walk from the station, we'd seen a few storefronts, but hadn't really been paying a lot of attention.

So after we got situated in our room, we went down to the front desk, and I asked the receptionist...

Me: "Can you tell me are there any restaurants nearby?"
Receptionist: "Oh, sure. Let me call you a cab."
Me: "Oh, no, no. We don't want to go anyplace far away. Just something close by."
Receptionist: "Yeah, there are lots of places. Let me call you a cab." [picks up phone]
Me: "No, please don't. We really just want someplace close. Is there any place within walking distance?"
[She looks puzzled]
Receptionist: "It's really no trouble for me to call you a cab."
Me: "We don't want a cab. We just want to know if there are any restaurants nearby. Are there any restaurants within a block or two?"
Receptionist: "Yeah. There are a few places at the corner of Vermont and Santa Monica. Are you sure you don't want me to call you a cab?"
Me: "Vermont and Santa Monica is a block away, right?"
Receptionist: "Yes."
Me: "We'll just walk. Thanks for your help."
Receptionist: "Really, it's no trouble to call a cab. Are you sure you don't want one?"

The ironic thing is that LA (the LA Basin at least) is actually very walkable. The problem is that Angelenos don't seem to know that.

I've ridden the 4/704 all the way from Union Station to the Santa Monica pier. And the density/urban form never drops below what you'd find in the Woodley Park commercial strip. That's about the same distance as going from Metro Center to Rockville. There are a few places were the walkability isn't great (Century City), but for the most part, the sidewalks are wide and complete, the street is buffered with parking, and buildings are built right to the street.

Dan Malouff: My example isn't quite so bad. It's a 0.4 mile walk from Fairfax City Hall to Fairfax Main Street. Who wants to guess how many people other than me walked to lunch, back when I worked in Fairfax?

Canaan Merchant: I used to walk to Fairfax City from GMU. It really freaked my roommates out. Thinking back, I have lots of examples of me having to explain that sometimes I preferred to walk for 20 minutes than drive 10 to get to places in Fairfax.

David Edmondson: In fairness to the drive-everywhere crowd, I definitely took the Metro from Mt. Vernon Square to Chinatown a number of times when I first moved to DC before I realized how close it actually is.

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Steven Yates grew up in Indiana before moving to DC in 2002 to attend college at American University. He currently lives in Southwest DC.  

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Visiting Bangkok recently, I tried to explore it on foot, the same way I've explored much of the District, NYC, and other cities. In many places, I was the only pedestrian, and bicyclists and even motorcycles ride on the sidewalk, which usually widens and narrows at random. Aside from the well-known touristy areas (Khao San Road, et al.), it seems like one of the least pedestrian-friendly and most car-dependent cities in the world, though at least cab fare is cheap and they're slowly expanding their public transit system. (And it's still an awesome place to visit, regardless.)

by Fran on Mar 5, 2014 12:54 pm • linkreport

When I first moved to the area in 1998. I was staying in a hotel in Tyson's near my new office in the "Tiffany's Building" The doorman pleaded with me not to walk because it was too dangerous. This was my walk. http://goo.gl/BOlpoV

by DC Dan on Mar 5, 2014 1:04 pm • linkreport

I walked from Rosslyn to Georgetown U instead of taking the GUTS shuttle. Many people will not believe that walking is often faster. Even less people will believe that DC weather is rarely so bad that you can not walk. I kept track for a year (2010-2011). Weather forced me only 7 times to take the shuttle. In a year.

Currently I CaBi from Georgetown to Crystal City. Again, virtually nobody will believe that that takes the same time as walking/shuttling to Rosslyn and riding metro to CC.

by Jasper on Mar 5, 2014 1:12 pm • linkreport

I spent four months living and working in Downtown Los Angeles without a car. I took the bus on Sundays to catch my football games. I rode the subway to work. I even took Amtrak to San Diego a couple times. I was blown away how easy it was to get around without a car. And most people I ran into out there were blown away I didn't want one. But the kicker was when I got back... My travel expenses were audited because I claimed $275 in mass transit passes instead of $3000 in rental car fees and gas.

by Dave Murphy on Mar 5, 2014 1:17 pm • linkreport

I laugh at David Versel's retelling. I used to live in North Baltimore car-free, using transit during the week, and on occasions of milder weather, renting a Zipcar from the Johns Hopkins campus about a mile away. I would walk to the campus to pick the car up, passing through a park with a small kids playground that was pretty popular.

I used to feel that same suspicious vibe each time I walked through there. Maybe it didn't help that I often had a camera in hand as I routinely stopped for a few insect photos in the nearby stream. Funny and sad on a lot of levels.

by A. P. on Mar 5, 2014 1:31 pm • linkreport

I walked from Rosslyn to Georgetown U instead of taking the GUTS shuttle. Many people will not believe that walking is often faster.

Those people must not be frequent users of the GUTS *rimshot*
Seriously, I would walk across the bridge all the time rather than wait for the thing or plunk down a dollar for the Circulator (or the Blue Bus before that). There is constant pedestrian traffic on that route, though, so it's not really that unusual, I don't think.

I admit, I was absolutely stunned when I went back to the place where I grew up (Mobile, AL) and found a sidewalk running along the main (two-lane, no less) street by where I lived. Now, it's still the case that almost no one actually walks on it to go places - it is for joggers and dog-walkers. If you're not doing one of those two things, you're liable to be looked at funny. But it's an improvement over the previous state of affairs, where people would pull over and ask if you needed help or your car broke down. (It goes without saying that if I were black, I probably would've had the cops called on me more than once).

Around here, I've found walking in many places to be a pain in the ass, but there's a sufficiently developed bus network that it's not completely unprecedented. There are places, though, where the vast majority of people availing themselves of that option appear to be either Latino immigrants or other lower-SES individuals, so I get some funny looks as the only white guy on the bus or the sidewalk or the non-sidewalk next to the road where there should be sidewalk.

by Dizzy on Mar 5, 2014 1:42 pm • linkreport

Another Tyson's story.

My brother was in town staying at a hotel in Tyson's. I went out to see him and we decided to have dinner at the mall adjacent to the hotel. We could see the restaurant from the room's window was only about 300 yards away but there didn't appear to be any crosswalks across the expressway like streets.

So we went down the lobby and queried the (2) front desk clerks. They exchanged a puzzled look between them and told us that nobody walked to the mall. We figured if they didn't know how to safely walk 300 yards we weren't going to try it so we retrieved his rental car from the garage and drove.

by JeffB on Mar 5, 2014 1:49 pm • linkreport

At my old job in suburbia I could take a bus back to the garage on my way to work. But for lunch I had to walk to visit a few options less than 1/2 mile away if I didnt bring something and on the way home I had to walk about 3/4 of a mile to the nearest bus stop to get home. There were sidewalks but otherwise it was just very rural/suburban land uses. I didnt mind it except when it was raining. I had one coworker stop by my desk saying she saw me walking and if I ever needed to go anywhere I should just let her know and she could drive me, which was nice but amusing since I was just fine with walking. Meanwhile just about everyone I worked with was very overweight or obese and probably on their way to an early grave...

by BTA on Mar 5, 2014 1:51 pm • linkreport

Bill Bryson's book on hiking the Appalachian Trail (A Walk in the Woods) relates a humorous (an simultaneously sad, for what it says about the state of pedestrian infrastructure in the US) story about walking from a hotel to a Walmart in a small town where he stayed during a break from the trail.

by John on Mar 5, 2014 2:00 pm • linkreport

Lots of people who work in DC were shocked by the idea that you could walk from GWU to Georgetown.

by SJE on Mar 5, 2014 2:00 pm • linkreport

I have a couple of good ones. Last year, a friend came by our apartment to hang out and chat. When he was ready to head home, I walked him out to his car which was parked on the side street next to our complex. He offered to drive me back to the door saying, "It's so far!"

The distance was no more than 200 meters.

On a few occasions while working on my bike in the garage, I've seen the same guy get in his car, drive off, and come back with either Domino's Pizza or McDonald's take out. McDonald's is across the street from the complex and Domino's is on the next block. This did not compute for me.

by CyclistinAlexandria on Mar 5, 2014 2:08 pm • linkreport

@ Dizzy:Those people must not be frequent users of the GUTS *rimshot*

No kidding. But aside from that, the non-users simply won't believe that walking can be faster than riding a bus. People also do not believe that you can use Gateway Park to bypass most of the pedestrian crossings.

@ SJE:Lots of people who work in DC were shocked by the idea that you could walk from GWU to Georgetown.

Actually, I find that many people both *at* GU and GW have no clue how to get from one to the other other than walking. They know parking at either is impossible, but are ignorant about (Cirulcator) buses, CaBi, or even combining metro and GUTS.

by Jasper on Mar 5, 2014 2:13 pm • linkreport

I have a friend who would always insist on driving into the city from Bethesda when we had weekend plans. While I sort of understood with the whole red line situation, inevitably she would want to park in Dupont and then get back in the car at some point and drive through to U st (or vice versa) and circle around to find parking again. I always tried to explain that it would be faster just to park in the middle somewhere and walk but it never sunk in.

by BTA on Mar 5, 2014 2:15 pm • linkreport

I work in Crystal City, and in the past year I've been thrilled to learn that DCA is a rare walkable airport. I was clued in by occasional sightings of airport personnel emerging from the Mt. Vernon Trail tunnel. Now, as long as I'm feeling bold enough to scoot across the two lane GW Parkway off-ramp, I can walk from the office to the terminal in 8 minutes (it's more like 18 if I circumvent the off-ramp).

by Hagiographer on Mar 5, 2014 3:03 pm • linkreport

A few months back, we bought a house in Fairhaven, MA right across the river from our former apartment in New Bedford, MA. A few days after we moved in, I needed to go back to New Bedford to get my car. I checked Google Maps & it was just about exactly 5K back to the apartment, mostly by bike path, so I put on my running gear. But just 100 yards from my front door, my in-laws were arriving to drop something off & pulled over. "We'll give you a ride to New Bedford," they said. "Thank you, but I'm happy to have the fresh air & exercise," I replied. It turned into Matt Johnson's hotel clerk back & forth - "Are you SURE?" They re-told the story for the next week about how their free-spirited son-in-law ran allll the way to New Bedford (a 25 minute jog).

by TheGreenMiles on Mar 5, 2014 3:25 pm • linkreport

You all don't seem to like to walk that far I've walked from the Ballston area to downtown DC around 20th & K one night. Great exercise and learned about many of the different side streets between Ballston & Rosslyn though I would never do that again.

by kk on Mar 5, 2014 3:33 pm • linkreport

I think I have most of you beat. I worked for a HHGregg in PA. In the SAME parking lot was a Dominoes, Subway, and Arby's. The Subway and Dominoes were a 1/4 mile away and the Arby's was 800 ft. I was 40 at the time but most employees were 20-30 years old. If I can't tell you how many times these kids were astonished that I walked to 'all the way' to Subway. Most of them drove to Arby's. I kid you not. What makes that especially sad is that we had to park at the end of the parking lot in front of our store, so the difference was at most 400 ft.

by Freemark on Mar 5, 2014 3:34 pm • linkreport

Last January, I attended a conference in La Jolla, and stayed in the hotel where the conference was being held. It was so warm out that I decided to walk to the shore after dinner (specifically, I wanted to walk over to the Seal Rock which I had last visited 13 years prior). I asked the front desk what the best way to get there would be. Response: "Taxi". I hate taxis, so I asked how far the closest bus stop was. Guy didn't know. I decided to walk it using google maps as my guide. It turned out to be 6 miles, and La Jolla turned out to not be very walkable. Ended up bussing it back. The demographic of the bus customers was very different than what i was used to here in DC. I guess this doesnt really add to the discussion at all but I've typed it out now. So yea

by Atlas on Mar 5, 2014 3:43 pm • linkreport

Hi,
I am an urbanist, stuck in suburbia.(I'm in Middle School, so "stuck" isn't exactly the right word.) Anywayyy......I am an urbanist, right? And I also like walking, biking, public transit, etc. So, I bike or walk to school almost every day. I live about a mile from my school. People are SHOCKED when they hear I bike or walk to school. The school doesn't bother salting the ped. walkways to school, so they are covered in ice the day school reopens after a snowstorm. I was walking to school, and I fell and slipped twice due the the ice. My HW was soaked, b/c my backpack fell in snow. 1st period teacher wouldn't take my HW even though I did the work correctly, and you could still see my answers. I tried to explain the situation, he wouldn't listen. His solution to my problem? Tomorrow, have your parents drive you to school. Lol, my mom's lefty for work already when I leave, and my dad works till midnight, and is asleep when I leave.

by Leo on Mar 5, 2014 4:11 pm • linkreport

I moved to LA and my car was stolen my first night there. I ended up staying for six more years and did without a car for two of them. I settled in Hollywood because it's very villagey; most things I needed were very walkable. I soon found you could bus anywhere -- given sufficient time and nerve. It was weird though; white Angelenos did not take public transpo -- not the subway and definitely not the bus. If there were other white people on the bus with me they were invariably European immigrants, just out of prison, or newbie Scientologists.

by Kalkaino on Mar 5, 2014 4:29 pm • linkreport

My wife often bikes the 11 miles to work in downtown DC. Many people are stunned to hear that because 1) it seems like an unfathomable distance to bike (when in reality it takes less than 10 mins longer than driving/biking to metro 1 mile away and taking metro) and 2) they assume she's riding in the street the whole way rather than taking the bike freeway (a trail).

by Falls Church on Mar 5, 2014 4:43 pm • linkreport

My parents drove my sister to her high school bus stop. Google says its a three minute walk. The stop is no more than 0.2 miles from the end of the cul de sac, but virtually all of the students living there, even high schoolers, are driven, no matter the weather.

The same sister was recently amazed when my girlfriend and I walked from our suburban hotel to a store in a large shopping center across the street. It was a mile away and we had no car.

by Brandon on Mar 5, 2014 4:53 pm • linkreport

@ Brandon

How can something across the street and a mile away ? If its across the street it is no more than 1500 yards at the most.

by kk on Mar 5, 2014 5:27 pm • linkreport

We recently moved to Chicago from a big southern city where we had to drive to the gym a mile away to exercise -- because there were no sidewalks and busy streets. It was obviously nuts to drive so I could walk a couple of miles on the track and use the machines, but I really felt I would be taking my life in my hands to walk.

I LOVE Chicago. Not only is there great public transportation on both an excellent bus system and the El, but where we live not far from downtown, we can walk to meet almost all of our consumer needs. We can do our grocery shopping on foot; we can shop for clothes on foot; the library, the drugstore, and a dozen restaurants are easily accessible on foot. We got rid of one car and use the other rarely. It is such a pleasure to be able to walk everywhere in this beautiful city. Even in this cold winter with lots of snow, Chicagoans shovel the walks by their buildings (it's the law) and we can walk.

It is 23F outside right now and there is snow on the ground and we just enjoyed a mile walk to a discussion group and did a little grocery shopping on the mile walk back. Love this kind of urban lifestyle.

by Artemesia on Mar 5, 2014 5:41 pm • linkreport

I used to live in the Montrose section of Houston, in the 1980s. It was a little over 1 mile to my office in downtown Houston. My car broke down one spring and I had about a week until payday when I could afford to repair it. So I walked to work every morning in my tennis shoes and dress clothes.

The worried/puzzled looks I got were very amusing. And inevitably, at least three (not scary) people would stop to ask me if I wanted a ride, which was typical in friendly Texas.

by Dairy Maid on Mar 5, 2014 6:13 pm • linkreport

I lived in Pasadena for two years. My second day there, I hiked 3 miles to the DMV. I took a bus back and people thought I was crazy that I didn't mind walking a few extra blocks home. Instead, they were insisting that I transfer and likely increase my trip time.

I sometimes would walk in San Marino. I was never stopped by a policeman to pay a fine for the privilege. (That was the law then.) It was clear from the cobwebs that nobody else walked before me.

by Chuck Coleman on Mar 5, 2014 6:23 pm • linkreport

That's Pasadena, CA, a suburb of LA.

by Chuck Coleman on Mar 5, 2014 6:24 pm • linkreport

@John - re: A Walk In the Woods (er, suburbia). That part of Chapter 7 you are referring to is a fantastic commentary of the driving mentality and Bryson's harrowing journey in a very un-walkable section of town. I often think back to that passage as a measuring stick as to how pedestrian friendly a place is.

I've recently cut a lot of unnecessary driving out and have been using my own two feet... I've enjoyed it and constantly get the weird looks--especially in the car-loving PG county. Now it seems odd to drive to the library vs. walking, a mere 1.0 mile. I'd like to thank PG county and MD SHA for some of Maryland's worst pedestrian accommodations and traffic sewers. :o)

by Bob Smith on Mar 5, 2014 6:27 pm • linkreport

@KK - it's amazing how much you see at 3mph. One fine spring day many years ago, I challenged myself to walk from Union Station to Bethesda. That was an amazing adventure. I was probably young, dumb and naive.. not sure I'd do it again, but I had a blast. Just me and some tunes!

I think the DC area is very health conscious overall. Of course, some of my co-workers are much the exception. I heard recently of a study that stated that obese women get less than 1 hour of exercise a YEAR. Here, I go crazy if I miss a day due to snow/ice.

by Bob Smith on Mar 5, 2014 6:41 pm • linkreport

I lived in DC for five years and walked everywhere. Aside from Capitol Hill and parts of NW it was doable but not pleasant.... DC has the big, wide, empty street thing in spades, plus the awful heat...
Now I live in Amsterdam and it's very rare that I walk anywhere farther than two blocks /400 meters away... Because then it's more convenient to cycle. Most Amsterdammers do the same: walking a mile is for dog walking or doing the length of a shopping street on Saturday. Otherwise you are on wheels.

I could never go back to DC...

by Cereal on Mar 5, 2014 7:04 pm • linkreport

The last time I visited my grandmother in the little Midwestern town where I was born, I went for a walk on a Sunday morning. Within minutes someone called the police, and an officer stopped me and questioned me briefly. As Main Street had slowly stifled by the big stores on the edge of town, there really was no place to reach by foot. I was mostly looking for memories of buildings that been demolished years earlier and replaced by buildings on the outskirts, but apart from that, there no longer remained any reason to walk.

by RobNYNY1957 on Mar 5, 2014 8:01 pm • linkreport

Twenty years ago I went to Florida to Disney World. Some of the hotels had shuttle busses to the parks. Our hotel did not, so we walked from our hotel to another one, I think it took five minutes. People stopped their cars to ask if we needed help. The "best" part of it was that the sidewalks were decorative and obviously not intended to be walked on. They were wide, and clean, but they zigzagged like a row of wide v's with the open ends facing the roadway, instead of running in a regular parallel line to the road.

by Clarissa on Mar 5, 2014 8:09 pm • linkreport

Cereal, you'd be happy to hear that we are putting in a good number of bike lanes and the like. It's not perfect and we probably do have a few more hills than Amsterdam, but it's way better than it was 10 years ago when I barely saw anyone biking.

by BTA on Mar 5, 2014 8:29 pm • linkreport

@Leo: Any chance you could share with us the school and the subject matter of the class where a teacher would not accept wet homework from someone who fell after walking a mile? Depending on the jurisdiction, some of us might know the local officials whose job it is to encourage a more enlightened attitude.

by JimT on Mar 5, 2014 9:39 pm • linkreport

I think the anti-walking mentality extends beyond the suburbs in the more auto centric cultures of the southern and western US. When I visit family in Miami, I walk everywhere. They're city folk and mostly progressive in their lifestyle but they see walking or biking as a chore to be endured and hop in a car to go a couple blocks even though it's 80 degrees and sunny.

@Cereal, few cities can come close to Amsterdam or Copenhagen for bike friendliness, but DC has become the most bike friendly major city in the US in my opinion. NY is too congested (people use the bike lanes as walking/jogging paths to get away from the hordes), Boston is too cold, and SF is too hilly. When I bike the mile to my office in downtown DC I invariably count several dozens of fellow cyclists on a nice morning and the cycle tracks are not even on my route.

by dno on Mar 6, 2014 12:16 am • linkreport

@kk

As I said, the shopping center was quite large.

by Brandon on Mar 6, 2014 12:24 am • linkreport

As I said, the shopping center was quite large.

Also, 1500 yards is over .85 of a mile.

by dcd on Mar 6, 2014 7:39 am • linkreport

If it's not raining, I generally walk to work from Columbia Heights to Georgetown. It's just a few minutes longer than taking Metro (because of the required transfer and the walk from Foggy Bottom, and depending on headways, it could be a the same). From the way many people react when they first find out, you'd think it was the Bataan death march.

Only marginally funnier is the reaction when they find out that when I don't walk, I metro. (Apparently lawyers aren't supposed to take mass transit?) But this way, I don't have to pay the $300/month for parking in my building or have a second car for the family. And what's the point of living in the city if you don't take advantage of it's benefits?

by dcd on Mar 6, 2014 7:50 am • linkreport

@Clarissa,
I lived in the Orlando area for a few years. I was told the zig-zag sidewalks were deliberate, because there *were* walkers out for exercise rather than getting from point A to point B (otherwise you'd drive!). Mostly around developments.

by steverinoCT on Mar 6, 2014 10:13 am • linkreport

@kk A street can be 1500' wide, but still require a mile walk to cross, if people are basically driving at freeway speeds, and it's a mile between traffic lights, and you're halfway in between.

While some people will scoot across despite the obvious danger, after the first collision, the city will usually 'solve' the problem by putting a fence or something in the middle.

This happens a lot, because America.

by Jeff Dubrule on Mar 6, 2014 11:11 am • linkreport

I walked up Rockville Pike north of Twinbrook to the Rockville Station. It was generally unpleasant and often scary. On the hot afternoon, the trees planted along the sidewalk were on the east side of the sidewalk where they could provide no shade from the afternoon sun.

by Capt. Hilts on Mar 6, 2014 11:29 am • linkreport

When I visit my folks in Florida, they're perpetually stunned that I don't mind walking the 1/2 mile to Publix. It's especially funny coming from my dad, who plays golf 3 times a week and often walks instead of taking the cart.

by worthing on Mar 6, 2014 11:30 am • linkreport

I used to work in Bethesda and once walked back from Rockville after an appointment up there.

Weird looks aplenty. Though the infrastructure, while kind of crappy, didn't make the walk impossible by any stretch.

by CP on Mar 6, 2014 11:33 am • linkreport

Visiting L.A. in the '80's I inquired about bus routes. "Oh, no, you don't want the bus. Only Mexicans ride the bus." This response from an Asian-American gave me a clue to the LA mindset.

by ChrisP 31 on Mar 6, 2014 12:24 pm • linkreport

The concept that people who walk are weird feeds into the idea that if you are killed by a car while walking you somehow deserved it.

by SJE on Mar 6, 2014 12:50 pm • linkreport

@ Jeff Dubrule

I guess that could be; but i'd be damned if it was me walking 1/2 mile to a traffic light when the place I want to go to is across the street. I have jwalked across Rt 7 from Marriott to the 7 Eleven, and Rt 50 many times and wont stop.

Oh and fences get cut many times just look at the CSX tracks near Rhode Island Ave Metro; there has been a fence there for the past 30 years but everytime it is repaired there is a new hole in the exact same spot because it is the logical place where people want to go.

We need to build stuff from the logical point of view from the pedestrian or you will always have j walking,or holes cut in fences or build bridges for them.

by kk on Mar 6, 2014 2:30 pm • linkreport

I lived in Columbus Ohio literally 100 yards from a famous burger joint called Thurman's. My friends would drive to my house for beers before we'd head down to Thurman's for food. My girlfriend and I walked. My friends would always drive. In multiple separate cars. And drive around the block a few times to look for parking. And then walk 50 yards to Thurman's from their parking spot.

by Lud on Mar 6, 2014 3:47 pm • linkreport

The only people in Los Angeles who know how truly walkable this city is are sadly enough, the homeless people. I've seen the same individuals miles away from the last time I happened to observe them on a previous occasion, & it's so disheartening to realize that these people's longevity can be attributed to the fact that they're forced to walk everywhere they go.

by Stentor on Mar 8, 2014 10:10 pm • linkreport

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