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"Sharing" isn't a good term for services like Uber and Lyft. Is there a better one?

Many of the services that call themselves "sharing," like "ridesharing" (Uber, Lyft), "car sharing" (Zipcar, car2go), bikesharing (Capital Bikeshare), "home sharing" (Airbnb), and others, are not really "sharing" as we typically think of the term. Do we need up with better words to describe these new business models?


Photo by Via Tsuji on Flickr.

The "sharing economy" (early on called "collaborative consumption") is a rapidly-growing sector. Most of its businesses allow people to temporarily use some good for a fee where typically, and formerly, people would own it (like a bike, a car, or an apartment).

But many commentators have pointed out that the term "sharing," at least as we learned it as children, generally means letting people use something you have for free, not renting out something you have, and definitely not a company owning a bunch of things which it rents to people or paying someone to do work on your behalf.

Companies like Uber and Lyft have been dubbing their services "ridesharing." These companies contract with drivers who can make money by offering rides. Jason Pavluchuk from the Association for Commuter Transportation argued that calling these services "rideshare" made it harder to advocate for other models that more aptly deserve the term, like carpool and vanpool services where people actually ride together.

There's also slugging, a longstanding practice where people commuting, such as on I-95 in Virginia, pick up other people at a designated spot who are going to the same destination. (The drivers don't charge for this; they do it to get the right to use the carpool lane.)

Uber and Lyft are really new variants on taxi service. They let people use a car they might already own (though Uber is also offering loans to drivers to get new cars), but they are still doing it as a job. If you use such a service, you're not sharing someone's car; you're paying them to give you a ride.

Other companies like Sidecar have envisioned a model where people already driving from one place to another offer rides to someone who happens to be going the same way. That's a little bit more "sharing" than the app-based taxi-like services.

Services like Zipcar and Capital Bikeshare also could have somewhat more of a claim to the term "sharing." In those cases, at least, there is a pool of vehicles which multiple "members" all use together. They all pay, but basically are pooling money to have a shared resource instead of owning.

What do you think counts as sharing? Is there a better term for these services?

Abigail Zenner is an Associate in Government Affairs at the American Planning Association. She is a member of the Ward 3 Vision Steering Committee and often described as a professional parking nerd. When she's not nerding out about smart growth, you may find her teaching a fitness class. Her blog posts represent her personal views only. 

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by The Truth™ on Jul 17, 2014 2:39 pm • linkreport

The proper term would be renting or a rentier economy. You own an asset and you rent it out to folks. For "ridesharing" services that are taxi substitutes we should just call them taxis, and public bikeshare should be thought of as transit or a similar public utility, although it is clearly targeted towards specific set of publics.

by JGreen on Jul 17, 2014 2:41 pm • linkreport

Cell-Hail, but you get the idea.

by The Truth™ on Jul 17, 2014 2:42 pm • linkreport

I agree that 'sharing' doesn't fit the Uber and Lyft (or even Airbnb) model.

Before relocating to DC, I was involved in a non-profit carsharing organization. I'd definitely argue 'sharing' was the appropriate term. Although no different than Zipcar in that there were hourly rates and the organization owned the vehicles, the fact that it was a non-profit with the ultimate goal of encouraging alternative transportation and reducing VMT made it feel different than a for profit car-rental transaction. Even on the for-profit level, I think 'sharing' fits with the idea of a membership base utilizing a pool of vehicles on an hourly/daily basis.

by Ross on Jul 17, 2014 2:49 pm • linkreport

yes. Collaborative consumption (the title of a very good book on the field). Another way of thinking about it is "fractional ownership" the technical term for time share.

In this case, it's fractional usage of a product platform.

The UN did a lot of interesting work in this broad area, on integrated "product-service systems."

http://www.unep.org/resourceefficiency/Portals/24147/scp/design/pdf/pss-imp-7.pdf

by Richard Layman on Jul 17, 2014 2:53 pm • linkreport

Metro is actually a train sharing company.

by JJJJ on Jul 17, 2014 2:58 pm • linkreport

Uber/Lyft/Sidecare are nothing more than fancied-up taxi/livery services.

Airbnb is nothing more than a fancied-up hotel or B&B.

Generally, anything that promotes itself as being part of the "sharing economy" usually means that it doesn't comply with some aspects of existing laws.

by Lurker on Jul 17, 2014 3:06 pm • linkreport

Maybe you should think of share as a noun, not a verb. For instance, a pig share entitles you to a share of a pig, it doesn't mean you get to share the pig with the farmer.

by Bargain on Jul 17, 2014 3:07 pm • linkreport

I'd call things like bikeshare "mutual ownership" and agree it's not sharing in the way we usually use that word (although it is sharing in the way you might own "shares" in a company on the stock exchange).

Things like uber are nothing like sharing. Uber is just a car service. AirBNB is a VRBO - vacation rental by owner or just a HRBO - home rental by owner.

by Falls Church on Jul 17, 2014 3:08 pm • linkreport

Collaborative consumption is a cool sounding term but to me it sounds like when you go shopping with your friends.

by Falls Church on Jul 17, 2014 3:12 pm • linkreport

+1 Falls Church..made me laugh

by JDC on Jul 17, 2014 3:30 pm • linkreport

How about "Unlawful taxi operation with no adequate insurance" ?

Or "ride-at-your-own-risk" ?

by Andrew on Jul 17, 2014 3:30 pm • linkreport

Drugs - Delivered tm?

by Bingo on Jul 17, 2014 3:32 pm • linkreport

Uber/etc. are gypsy cabs.
AirBnb is a network of underground hotels.

"Sharing", in these cases, as @Lurker says, seems to mean, "underground". I'm not really sure how cities are still allowing these services to float above ground...

If Al Capone had a slick iPhone app, could he have a "Liquor sharing" service?

by Charles on Jul 17, 2014 3:33 pm • linkreport

The industry term in development is TNC - Transportation Networked Company. I prefer Networked On-Demand Transportation Service (NOTS). The key to these new services is "Networked" - although some taxi companies are also using apps to book rides.

by Steve Yaffe on Jul 17, 2014 3:52 pm • linkreport

Rogue Service Industry

by The Truth™ on Jul 17, 2014 4:10 pm • linkreport

Instead of "the sharing economy", how about "the economy"? They are selling or renting goods and services for money.

Calling themselves ###-sharing is just marketing. Bike-sharing is bike rental. Car-sharing is (short-term) car rental. As other commenters have noted, some of these vendors are non-profit or have figured out ways around industry regulation by branding themselves as something different than the industry incumbents who do face regulations.

Since taxi regulations have been so frustrating to drivers and riders in places like DC, Uber has gotten away with this. Laws and regulations will catch up though.

Slugging actually is sharing. It's also just organized hitch-hiking (also sharing).

Let's use the term sharing for the way adults eat desserts in restaurants and when kids take turns with the toy truck.

by Ward 1 Guy on Jul 17, 2014 4:32 pm • linkreport

I think using the term "share" in them implies the users who pay have some type of ownership in the thing being shared, which is factually incorrect for these businesses. No one is "sharing" any of these things.

"Rideshare" companies like Uber and Lyft are garden variety taxi companies with a clever method of hailing and payment.

AirBnB is an online marketplace for hotel/B&B rentals.

Capital Bikeshare is a short-term bike rental service. Payments allow use of Bikeshare bikes, but you don't have a "share" of ownership in either the service or any bike.

by IsoTopor on Jul 17, 2014 4:38 pm • linkreport

Renting.
KISS [Keep it simple, stupid]

by Jasper on Jul 17, 2014 4:43 pm • linkreport

I understand all the suggestions to just call it "rental" or "taxi" or whatever. One need we have is what to call these in Breakfast Links. If there's a story about how CaBi-like systems are expanding to 5 more cities we can say "5 more cities have bikeshare."

But if a story is about, say, Uber and Lyft wanting to be legal in city x, we could write "Rideshare companies are lobbying for legalization," except we don't like the term "rideshare." Or we could say "Uber and Lyft..." except we would rather use a generic term. But we can't say "Taxi companies are lobbying..." or whatever.

We need a short phrase that doesn't have the word "share" in it but that can apply to these. (And we need it to catch on, which is harder!)

by David Alpert on Jul 17, 2014 4:59 pm • linkreport

I think the difference is that rental connotes a location where you have to go rent the item.

When you rent an umbrella at the beach, you go to the kiosk. When you rent a car, you go to the agency. When you rent a bike, you go to the store.

Bikeshare and carshare are different because the transaction location comes to you. So it makes sense to use a very different word than rental which carries so many implications.

Oddly enough, Redbox never jumped into that, although they share more in common with "share" businesses and blockbuster-style rental stores.

by JJJJ on Jul 17, 2014 5:15 pm • linkreport

@JJJJ

I don't see how the location makes a difference, and strictly speaking, none of those examples are things that "come to you." The bikeshare rack's are numerous, but all are at a fixed location, you have to go to where they are. Zipcar locations are numerous, but you still have to find one where it was last left.

You're renting an asset you don't own, however it comes to you or you to it. Even if a bikeshare bike was delivered to you personally every time you wanted one, I don't see how that changes anything.

Enterprise advertises that they will bring a rental car to you, ("we'll pick you up!") but no one ever thought of them as a car share company.

by IsoTopor on Jul 17, 2014 5:23 pm • linkreport

How about "leasing"?

And I applaud the effort to get away from 'sharing,' which implies a communal, not for profit activity. CaBi, etc. are for-profit companies - good for them, but they aren't 'sharing'.

by Willow on Jul 17, 2014 5:24 pm • linkreport

"Ridesharing" is inaccurate marketing BS and I cringe when I see people become co-opted to market for these companies by using their newspeak.

However, I see David's point. You want a simple word or phrase. I would go with "jitney," which Merriam-Webster says is "an unlicensed taxicab." You could go with "gypsy cab", but the dictionary says this is often for vehicles which pick up fares illegally. The legality of Uber and its ilk is debatable, so I would avoid gypsy cab...but that they are unlicensed is not debatable.

Since Uber and their ilk do not actually operate the jitneys, "jitney dispatch companies" fits perfectly.

I like "jitney" because it has connotations that I think these companies deserve...however, should you prefer something less loaded and more bureaucratic, you can try "Transportation network company," a term the California regulators adopted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transportation_network_company

by massysett on Jul 17, 2014 5:45 pm • linkreport

Just call Uber/Lyft livery services and be done with it. If users share the equipment and operate it themselves then I am okay with the *share term. I don't think that concept applies to AirBNB.

by movement on Jul 17, 2014 6:03 pm • linkreport

I believe the correct term would be "renting"

by Scoot on Jul 17, 2014 6:54 pm • linkreport

@IsoTopor Its both location and how you interact.

Zipcar, bikeshare, redbox is you in a machine, near your home.

Rental locations usually arent, and require much more paperwork.

by JJJJ on Jul 17, 2014 7:13 pm • linkreport

I think of these services as "micro-rentals.'
They are definitely rentals, but instead of renting for a week or days, you get them for a few minutes, a single trip to the store, or whatever.

Small-time or short-term = micro

by Boris on Jul 17, 2014 7:26 pm • linkreport

I like "jitney," but we should probably stay away from "gypsy."

As I was typing this out, I realized there is already a term for this, which is applicable beyond just taxi replacements: "gray market".

So, how does "cyber-gray" taxi sound? I know "cyber" isn't on the cool podium anymore, but it kind of has a nice flow to it. Besides, we still have "Cyber Monday."

Examples:

Man, I love these new cyber-gray taxi services.

Or, simply "graynet?"

Dude! Have you tried that new graynet taxi service, Uber?

Ladies! I can't wait to start using that new graynet booze delivery service!

I say there! How did you make reservations for these unique accommodations?

My good man, I used the new graynet home renting service called DibsOnCribs!

by The Truth™ on Jul 17, 2014 7:27 pm • linkreport

I agree with calling them TNCs - transportation network companies.

by Reza on Jul 17, 2014 7:37 pm • linkreport

"Rideshare" isn't what Uber/Lyft are. They're just prepaid taxi service.

Supershuttle is "Rideshare".

by STrRedWolf on Jul 17, 2014 7:51 pm • linkreport

It's the Bespoke Economy/Bespoke Consumption. The mass production, one-size-fits-all economic model that allowed everyone to have, say, their own lawnmower for their personal use, is over. A world of networked consumers can now have a fraction of those lawnmowers at high use tempos (rather than a multitude of lawnmowers used only rarely). We're moving into an era of radical efficiency where maximum value is squeezed out of latent, underutilized capital, with wastefulness is expensive and efficiency is valuable. exciting times.

by colin on Jul 17, 2014 8:30 pm • linkreport

"Bespoke" -- we're not talking about custom made suits. We're talking about what New Yorkers called gypsy cabs. Jitney is probably the most respectable term. Airbnb is basically just an old boarding house.

the idea here is to recast an economy that is increasingly 19th century, where the real price often is hidden and people have to settle for something that is unregulated in the more suspicious sense of the term.

by Rich on Jul 17, 2014 11:19 pm • linkreport

'Jitney' is the term for an unlicensed/gypsy cab in Pittsburgh. You can't usually hail _them_, either, but like UberX/Lyft they at least usually come when you call them, unlike Yellow; unlike Uber/Lyft, they typically hang out in certain locations, and you can pick them up there (go to certain grocery stores and look for the guys asking random passersby if they need a ride...) August Wilson wrote one of his major plays about Pittsburgh jitneys...

UberX/Lyft are, at least to this Pittsburgher's eyes, jitneys with apps.

by infinitebuffalo on Jul 18, 2014 12:05 am • linkreport

Prepaid black car service. Maybe prepaid taxi service, but I hesitate because they are unregulated and so are not really taxis. So, maybe prepaid transportation service.

I agree that rideshare is BS. Lots of people are saying jitney. Like ridshare, I feel that Uber corrupts that concept as well.

If you want only one word, then the search is not over.

(Enterprise does not bring the rental to you. They take you to the rental.)

by Jazzy on Jul 18, 2014 6:22 am • linkreport

What if they pick you up IN your rental, to take you to the office?

by The Truth™ on Jul 18, 2014 7:18 am • linkreport

So far, I am partial to "Jitney," "Gray Market," or "Graynet" services.

Other than my newly coined "Graynet," they are establised terms that already mean what we want them to mean.

However, "Jitney" seems to be more taxi specific.

by The Truth™ on Jul 18, 2014 7:25 am • linkreport

Boatrocking, Boatrockers.

Noun or Verb.

The taxi industry just got boatrocked by newcomers Uber and Lyft.

The new boatrocker taxi service, Uber, finds itself in a legal no-man's-land in several large cities across the country. Taxi organizations and city governments are trying to "scuttle" this new start-up, because it is disruptive to the high profit monopoly on taxi services in their locales.

by The Truth™ on Jul 18, 2014 7:38 am • linkreport

To extend a usage that's already common in cloud-based computing, I think of CaBi as bikes-as-a-service which is how I describe it to out-of-towners unfamiliar with it.  The underlying model is actually subscription-based but that takes longer to explain. 

by cabi addict on Jul 18, 2014 8:10 am • linkreport

Sharing services do resemble cloud computing which, in its non-trendy usage, involves removing the friction around setting up new services, and billing customers for exactly what they use.

These services need some kind of collective name. Uber might be another kind of livery service, and CaBi just bike rental, and AirBnB a sometimes-ilicit way of renting short-term housing, but dismiss them as just new forms of existing enterprises is to ignore the common threads. All of these businesses have gone to great lengths to minimize transaction costs, and to bring services to the customer.

Traditional car rental: reserve a car on the phone or online, get to a rental location, stand in line for 15 minutes, fill out paperwork for 10 minutes, get guided over to the car with a staffer, review for damage, take keys, and drive off.

ZipCar: reserve a car online, walk over to a ZipCar spot, wave an RFID card at the car, and drive.

Traditional bike rental: find a bike rental place, get there, fill out forms, and leave.

CaBi: walk to a station, insert key, take bike. If there are no bikes, go to the next station.

The legality and regulations issues are red herrings. AirBnB brings legal entanglements and presents social problems, but ZipCar and Capital Bikeshare do not.

There are more manifestations of this idea. A local theatre company operates a tool library that lets members check out power tools rather than having to buy their own. No regulatory complications, and no profit motive.

I'm okay with the term "sharing." The alternative terms are imprecise in their own ways, or too narrow.

Most of the Oxford English Dictionary definitions for "share" speak about economic activity, not just the model childhood playgroup:

"To divide (what one has or receives) into portions, and give shares to others as well as one's self. "

"Of two or more persons: To divide into shares and take each a portion."

"To receive, possess, or occupy together with others."

by David R. on Jul 18, 2014 8:50 am • linkreport

I say "jitney" or "TNC" aka transportation network company.

Plus, this would another time to suggest that FAQ so that newbies to the site can learn that GGW uses those terms to refer to Uber/Lyft because they are not really rideshares.

by Thad on Jul 18, 2014 8:51 am • linkreport

Definition of GRAY MARKET

: a market employing irregular but not illegal methods; especially: a market that legally circumvents authorized channels of distribution to sell goods at prices lower than those intended by the manufacturer

by The Truth™ on Jul 18, 2014 9:10 am • linkreport

For BoatRocker, we have "Rock"

: to cause (someone or something) to be upset or shocked

by The Truth™ on Jul 18, 2014 9:13 am • linkreport

If only there were a word that described paying someone to use something that they own...oh, right, "rent".

I like the suggestion above to qualify it as a "microrental" service.

Now if only there were a word that described paying someone to drive you somewhere...oh, right, "livery service".

Maybe "online livery service"?

by Mike on Jul 18, 2014 9:31 am • linkreport

"Drivers for hire" was the term Mobility Lab's Howard Jennings used in our latest posting on this topic.

http://mobilitylab.org/2014/07/09/drivers-for-hire-like-uber-will-be-an-exciting-evolution/

It's a tough thing. We have a "Sharing Economy" section of our website, which is where all the Uber-type articles go. So we're all trying to figure this out.

The bad thing is that confused lawmakers could make bad policies that hurt traditional carpooling and vanpooling services.

And, thanks GGW, for linking to our article by Jason Pavluchuk.

by Mobility Lab on Jul 18, 2014 9:38 am • linkreport

colin's point (Bespoke Economy) is right out of the book _Collaborative Consumption_, but I guess I would call the idea "networked consumption."

But there are two very different things going on. Carsharing and bikesharing are a form of fractional membership (an extension of the idea of timesharing or what is called fractional ownership--but are timeshare owners really owners--they are legally, from a form standpoint--or renters in terms of substance), used via a networked platform that enables the significant reduction of transaction costs. E.g., compare the process for a traditional bike or car rental to the ability to do it via a sharing platform. Simple use wouldn't be possible in a non-networked environment, without cheap satellite and/or wireless Internet, etc.

The other form is the enablement of the use of "slack resources" which are pre-existing (a room in a house, people's cars, etc.) benefiting both owners who get extra money and users who get the use of an asset presumably cheaper than paying for traditional equivalents (like hotel rooms or car rentals) and before e-/mobile-commerce were a lot harder if not impossible to engage, because the transaction costs were so high (including information and knowledge costs).

This type of usage has pre-existed, as part of the underground economy, by renting rooms, gypsy cabs, etc.

I called this element of "sharing" the enablement of "the overground economy" in a piece I wrote last year.

http://urbanplacesandspaces.blogspot.com/2013/08/misunderstanding-uber-taxi-regulation.html

Airbnb and Lyft especially are about individuals being able to rent usage of their stuff where they weren't enabled before.

The software system behind the transactions not only provides marketing but enables the transaction to be legal and collect taxes etc. depending on the nature of the regulatory regime in the specific community where the service is provided.

Like how Groupon and LivingSocial are merely direct marketing firms gussied up by the Internet and not substantively different in any way from other forms of direct marketing, Uber is merely a e-based taxi dispatch service. I don't see how it's different from taxi services otherwise, and should be regulated accordingly.

by Richard Layman on Jul 18, 2014 10:52 am • linkreport

I think that just because services like Uber and Airbnb are using the internet as a main part of their business model, policy makers and the media don't know how to address them or interpret their actions, and therefore think they are so revolutionary and "disrupting".

In college, I lived in a house with 6 other people. When we had a free spot, we would post on craigslist. Was that sharing? No, of course not. We all paid rent to our absentee landlord and Airbnb is not substantively different.

Slugging along the I-95 corridor is a form of sharing. Lending your car to your friends who don't have cars so they can go to costco is sharing. Buying an order of large fries to split between friends so that you don't all buy small orders is sharing. Childcare co-ops are sharing.

Uber and similar companies are not sharing. To call it that is to insult all of the truly collective initiatives and projects that people engage in every day without seeking a profit.

Remember, "sharing is caring. It can be fun"

by Ethan on Jul 18, 2014 10:55 am • linkreport

the problem with the enablement of the underground economy with renting cars/taxis is the liability and protection needs for the consumer, plus the issue of ensuring the existence of a workable market. For rooms it's not a big deal. It is for services that compete with taxi services.

While I am the first to say that taxi services, especially in DC, could be a lot better, adding Uber, Lyft etc. to the mix just make the regular system under-profitable.

Plus the people who are Uber/Lyft providers are willing to underprice because that makes sense for them individually, but in terms of the overall market, creates serious problems. Adding Uber and Lyft type services is a form of deregulation...

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2241306

by Richard Layman on Jul 18, 2014 10:57 am • linkreport

http://time.com/money/2933937/sharing-economy-airbnb-uber-monkeyparking/

Uber to me looks like a bully with a billion dollars intent on driving the competition out of business.

They finance the Uber x cars, and running it at a loss.

AirBnB is trying to transition into a travel agency.

by charlie on Jul 18, 2014 11:02 am • linkreport

The only difference between 'sharing' companies and traditional competitors is a user interface that is based on an increased level of automation. They are disruptive, because the model provides more value to the customer by cutting out burdensome transactions with middlemen. But they aren't sharing. The sharing idea is just branding and says nothing about business model.

With Uber and Lyft, instead of making a phone call to a surly phone operator, who might mis-hear your address, or refuse to send service to your particular address, a simple app or website provides the user interface. AirBnB is a website that acts like the classifieds section of the local paper for short-term room rental.

Therefore, Uber and Lyft are 'automated taxi despatch services'. AirBnB is a 'web-based property rental platform'. Capital Bikeshare is automated bike rental. Zipcar is automated car rental. Car2Go is automated car rental. I would suggest that you just append 'automated' or 'web-based' to the traditional service that these companies are competing with.

Ashley Madison is 'web-based partner-sharing', but for some reason, the 'sharing' aspect isn't emphasized much.

by renegade09 on Jul 18, 2014 11:59 am • linkreport

Nexi.

New kind of taxi.

by Tony Wessling on Jul 18, 2014 4:23 pm • linkreport

Ride For Hire. Like a taxi or limo. However, RideShare is an incidental trip between at least two people where the point of origin and destination match up.

by Joseph Kopser on Jul 18, 2014 5:53 pm • linkreport

Earlier today, my husband gchatted at me that he was "tnc-ing over" (TNC = Transportation Network Company, the acronym he uses to discuss Uber, Lyft, etc in his professional life as a transportation researcher). Not sure if I like TNCing as much as Nexi.

by Sirinya Matute on Jul 18, 2014 6:10 pm • linkreport

Ridesourcing. One word, easy to say, no sharing implied.

by longwayup on Jul 19, 2014 7:39 pm • linkreport

The government calls ride sharing companies Transportation Network Companies (TNCs). I think it started with the California Public Utilities Commission; the Seattle City Council also uses the term. I'm sure it's caught on elsewhere too if you care to research it.

by YochiZ on Jul 19, 2014 10:06 pm • linkreport

Agreeing with Jasper. "Renting."

by asffa on Jul 19, 2014 10:41 pm • linkreport

The premise here is flawed. Kindergardeners sharing their toys (for free) is one form of sharing, but not the only form. If I purchase partial ownership of a company, I have shares of it. If I purchase a timeshare in a vacation home i am sharing. Sharing is not exclusive to non-reciprocal transaction, the direct meaning of the word is collective ownership or utility.

by Andrew on Jul 20, 2014 1:24 pm • linkreport

Lets remember that there are two types of Uber: UberX and Uber Black. Uber Black is fully licensed and accredited with the DC, Maryland and Virginia agencies to operate in those jurisdictions as a car hire service. When you see a UberX Suburban or Town Car, the license plate is a "for hire" vehicle.

The UberX cars are much more akin to private cars.

by ViennaFingers on Jul 20, 2014 6:27 pm • linkreport

It's called "renting." It's not that complicated.

If you're more interested in tech-sector buzzwords, "the peer-to-peer service economy" would be about right, but I guess it sounds dated.

by Vinnie on Jul 21, 2014 7:42 am • linkreport

They have lots of words for this sort of informal transportation hustling in the peripheral world - "taptaps", "guaguas", "jitneys". Actually, come to think of it, "jitney" is a perfectly acceptable English word for it. Otherwise, I would be willing to consider "honkhonks".

by J.D. Hammond on Jul 21, 2014 4:05 pm • linkreport

My thoughts can be summed up in this comments in this Twitter thread

https://twitter.com/tampabaytransit/status/491735754792775681

Arguably it is still a debatable gray area

by Andrew D on Jul 23, 2014 12:12 am • linkreport

Firstly to those saying prepaid: absolutely false and does NOT apply here. Yes you NEED to provide payment info but you're NOT actually charged till after your ride is complete and you submit payment ( or 24 hours later if you fail or forget to submit )

Ergo it's Post Pay

Second point it is Arguably a gray area and sharing in a more practical and different sense that the old skool traditional sense we "learned in school"
( quoting the above article )

Reality is you can't always get something for nothing.

Lyft perhaps deserves the sharing more than Uber

Yes you pay but even for the best rated of riders ( behind the scenes ) every Lyft ride a driver accepts is a gamble since riders can adjust the "donation" meanwhile in many cases Lyft and Uber drivers are offering up their time and own vehicle

Even for full on sharing at least in terms of rides to do so in this day and age constantly for FREE seems unreasonable. Gas, Car Payments, insurance, wear and tear, vehicle maintenance , fluids these things aren't free and are far from cheap. Asking ANY Vehicle owners to do it 100% FREE 100% of the time would be greedy, selfish and beyond ridiculous.

Times evolve and change as does the dictionary and the language each dictionary represents. As laws and regulation must adapt perhaps the term
"Sharing" needs a little redefining and examination.

by PK on Jul 23, 2014 12:40 am • linkreport

I like the Nexi or Ridesourcing phrases
Or perhaps since it's APP Based
How bout APPXii ?

by Jay on Jul 23, 2014 12:54 am • linkreport

AppCab or AppTaxi.

The issue is not with what to call the general idea "sharing" or "renting" but what to call these specific things. They are not "ridesharing" which was a word already coined to describe informal carpooling. Slugging is ridesharing. These companies operate taxis but "taxi" alone implies operating under the traditional regulatory model.

How bout APPXii ?

How do you even pronounce that? APPSCHEE? APSKEE?

by MLD on Jul 25, 2014 9:27 am • linkreport

Peer-to-peer taxi.

A few of the legal violations in the sharing economy are scary.

The vast majority are artifacts of laws and tax structures that make these new ways to structure services like fitting a round peg in a square hole.

by Jennifer Dotson on Aug 1, 2014 8:57 am • linkreport

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