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Breakfast links: Silver is coming


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The simulation begins: Metro is running simulated Silver Line trains this week. There will be fewer Orange Line trains west of East Falls Church and east of Stadium-Armory. (Post)

Parking lot owners prepare for commuters: Since the Tysons Corner Silver Line stations do not have Metro garages, some owners of adjacent private parking lots are welcoming commuters, while others, like the Tysons malls, are taking steps to ensure commuters don't use their lots. (Post)

Edgy redesign for Franklin Park: Among the three options for Franklin Park, "The Edge" seems to have the most support from officials. That would put a pedestrian plaza along I Street, redesign the fountain, and add a playground. (WBJ)

The seven worst guards in DC: Even though it's legal to take pictures of federal buildings from the public sidewalk, when Buzzfeed's Benny Johnson tried it around DC's seven ugliest buildings, security guards repeatedly hassled him.

National Harbor casino on the way: The Prince George's County Council will likely approve MGM's casino project at National Harbor today. But neighbors and their councilmember are demanding a transportation management plan. (Post)

Why not large condos?: Although neighbors often ask for larger, family-sized condos when a new project is built, developers say not many families actually want them (preferring townhouses or detached houses), and the profit per square foot is lower. However, larger condos may make sense in some areas like Capitol Hill. (UrbanTurf)

Cities turn contracting upside down: Rather than specifying exactly what they want to buy, Barcelona and Philadelphia are outlining the problems they want solved and letting entrepreneurs devise creative solutions. (CityLab)

RIP Ed Tennyson: Edson Tennyson, a long-time rail advocate, died last week at age 92 his home in Vienna. He was of Metro's original planners and remained an advocate to the end, with his most recent letter to Dr. Gridlock in March. (Railway Age, thm)

And...: A water-wheel pulls trash (including a tire) from Baltimore's Inner Harbor. (WTOP) ... This map shows the condition of roads and bridges by state. (Bacon's Rebellion) ... More details emerge on the freight container apartments going up in Brookland. (Post)

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Matt Malinowski is a consultant advising government clients on improving the energy efficiency of consumer electronic products, but is interested in all aspects of sustainable infrastructure and community resilience. He lives with his wife in the Truxton Circle/Bates neighborhood of DC. 

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The guy from buzzfeed was being a jerk.

by kob on Jul 21, 2014 9:25 am • linkreport

Who was being a jerk...the author/photographer or the security guards?

by DaveG on Jul 21, 2014 9:29 am • linkreport

Housing and Urban Development imo has some interesting architecture (Robert C. Weaver Federal Building)
According to the wiki the building was added to the National Register of Historic Places on August 26, 2008.[8]

by Brett Young on Jul 21, 2014 9:32 am • linkreport

The buzzfeed article is infuriating.

by JJJJ on Jul 21, 2014 9:43 am • linkreport

Why is it being a jerk to do something legal, and if police harass you anyway, ask why it's legal to harass you? Rights don't get preserved unless people stand up for them.

by David Alpert on Jul 21, 2014 9:47 am • linkreport

Solution for Franklin Square:
- Cut down all the trees
- Keep the narrow sidewalk beside the Eye St buses
- Keep the nonfunctional layout
- Block off the diagonal

by Bossi on Jul 21, 2014 9:48 am • linkreport

The Baltimore trash wheel has been going for a while, although the last few times I have walked by it never had nearly that much trash in it. Glad it is doing something.

by Richard on Jul 21, 2014 9:55 am • linkreport

@David Alpert

It is technically legal to take a photo of a public building, but this guy was looking for a dust-up with security. If you want to get the attention of security, go stand in front of security checkpoint and take photos. They don't like it. They don't want you there and they will tell you to leave. And I don't blame them.

by kob on Jul 21, 2014 9:57 am • linkreport

I really wonder about the data used to compute the states "poor" road conditions or deficient bridges. From my experience there is a huge drop off traveling from MD into PA or DE. Perhaps PA has a lot of roads no one drives squired away in the mountains somewhere that are all in perfect condition.

by Richard on Jul 21, 2014 9:59 am • linkreport

They can feel free to tell anybody to leave. They should just understand that someone can similarly feel free to ignore the request.

by drumz on Jul 21, 2014 10:00 am • linkreport

OK why was the Buzzfeed guy being a jerk?

by DaveG on Jul 21, 2014 10:02 am • linkreport

He was a jerk for saying that the one agency that let him take pictures must therefore be even worse than those who did not. That suggests to me that he was looking for the bad in people, so he found it.

by JimT on Jul 21, 2014 10:03 am • linkreport

DavidG you figure out. He manages to attract the attention at just about every building he visited. Is that enough bait for you? Make your point.

by kob on Jul 21, 2014 10:03 am • linkreport

Ed Tennyson will be missed. He was an example in everything he did, a man of integrity, wisdom, and wit. And he was a mentor to many.

by Dave Murphy on Jul 21, 2014 10:07 am • linkreport

For simply taking pictures from the public sidewalk of what sits in front of anyone with eyes, he's a jerk?

by DaveG on Jul 21, 2014 10:08 am • linkreport

That article about large condos was so dumb. "We don't think people want 3br condos because the people who buy our [studio and 1br] condos tend to be young and single." That's like a cupcake store saying "we don't think people want salads because most people who come to our store buy cupcakes." The real reason was one paragraph down, where they explain larger condos sell for less per square foot.

by sbc on Jul 21, 2014 10:08 am • linkreport

You take a photo of a security area, and far better framed one, in 5 secs, and then move on. That's long before you get on the attention of anyone's radar. But you need to be a special case, or someone working for the cheap hit engine buzzfeed, to draw security's attention.

by kob on Jul 21, 2014 10:12 am • linkreport

kob wrote:
It is technically legal to take a photo of a public building, but this guy was looking for a dust-up with security. If you want to get the attention of security, go stand in front of security checkpoint and take photos. They don't like it. They don't want you there and they will tell you to leave. And I don't blame them.
It doesn't sound to me like he was looking for a dust-up. He went to go take pictures of buildings for an article. Often the best place to get a view was near a guard post. He did the legal thing: stood in a public place to get a picture. But then guards hassled him.

We don't know if he went there expecting this to happen and deliberately stood in more provocative places, or just happened to get hassled each time. Maybe after it happened a few times he was thinking "this is a story."

But if he's doing something legal, then he shouldn't get hassled, and it's important for people to periodically publicly stand up to remind us all that it's our right to do that.

"Technically legal" is a very dangerous term in a free society. "Yeah, the law says you can do this, but ... well you shouldn't." Then anyone doing this legal thing is suspicious, which gives more reason to stop, search, and maybe arrest only some subset of people (typically minorities) who are doing this legal but now "suspicious" thing.

Yeah, security people would rather not have someone near their post taking pictures. They would also rather not have anyone anywhere nearby. They would rather block off a quarter mile around the Capitol in every direction where you can't go at all (by vehicle now, and then later...)

There is no evidence that any attack had any correlation with someone conspicuously taking pictures beforehand. Probably anyone planning something bad would take their pictures surreptitiously and let the guards concern themselves with the visible journalist instead.

Also, people take pictures standing right in front of the guard posts at places like the White House all the time. It's just unusual in the L'Enfant Plaza area because most people don't want to photograph those buildings. That doesn't make them a greater target. In fact, they're less.

by David Alpert on Jul 21, 2014 10:12 am • linkreport

I'm assuming the Bacon's Rebellion link about the condition of roads and bridges doesn't have data for DC, because I find it hard to believe that we have 0% deficient in both categories.

by Peter K on Jul 21, 2014 10:13 am • linkreport

In other news:

Real time arrivals went live this past weekend for the Silver line.

McLean
Tysons Corner
Greensboro
Spring Hill
Wiehle-Reston East

During simulated operations, at the stations listed above they are showing up as Orange line eastbound with a Largo destination and Silver line trains with a Wiehle-Reston East destination.

by Sand Box John on Jul 21, 2014 10:17 am • linkreport

The Buzzfeed story (both about the checkpoints and the horrible brutalist architecture) along with the recent Slate story about the many highway checkpoints in Arizona give me a very East Germany vibe.

by engrish_major on Jul 21, 2014 10:17 am • linkreport

It is strange that the owners of the Tysons malls won't charge commuters to use their parking lots. I certainly hope that most Silver line riders take various bus routes to reach the Silver line stations but I assume that most of the parking for the malls at Tysons is unused/underused during typical 9-5 work hours and this would be a way for these landlords to earn extra revenue. Additionally, riders park at the existing mall parking, they will probably be more likely to patronize the stores before driving home.

by 202_Cyclist on Jul 21, 2014 10:23 am • linkreport

Buzzfeed: Being familiar with the Forrestal building, some of his photos where on the second level walkway where it is questionable if that area is open to the public. There is never anyone there and his presence would have stuck out as unusual. Again, not sure if that area is public or not, but there is nothing prohibiting your from going up into that area, even though they have been doing construction in that area for sometime and you can get very close to some peoples offices.

by RJ on Jul 21, 2014 10:25 am • linkreport

Tysons Mall may be concerned about being overwhelmed by demand, and there may be zoning issues as well. In theory, if one has the amount required by zoning, one would not be able to rent it out to non-shoppers.

by Crickey7 on Jul 21, 2014 10:30 am • linkreport

@David Alpert

This buzzfeed reporter stood in front of the checkpoints for a long-enough time to get attention. He had plenty of time to take a photo and move on, but that wasn't the goal, and he achieved it each instance. Try this experiment: Go stand in front of a checkpoint, from the public sidewalk, without a camera for a period and just stare and see if you attract attention. A guard will probably come out to check you out, and ask you to move along.

In each instance, this buzzfeed photographer wasn't arrested, his camera wasn't confiscated, and he wasn't detained. It seems that his treatment was consistent, and cautionary on the part of the guards.

You don't know what scenarios the guards at security checkpoints are concerned about. What worries them, and what they prepare for, and the risk. Clearly, the situation is different at the White House.

But are a general rule, security folk don't like having their photos taken, and in a era where software can sweep every single photo published anywhere and match it to face recognition software, I can get that why security folks aren't really keen about this. But I also understand why they aren't really keen about people who hang out in front of checkpoints -- camera or not.

by kob on Jul 21, 2014 10:32 am • linkreport

Buzzfeed Article:

Two words "Google Glass".

by Bill Smith on Jul 21, 2014 10:36 am • linkreport

Crickey:
"Tysons Mall may be concerned about being overwhelmed by demand..."

Perhaps but then the owners of this parking should raise the prices of it to match the demand. Higher prices for parking would also encourage other Silver line passengers to find alternative ways to access the station.

by 202_Cyclist on Jul 21, 2014 10:36 am • linkreport

@kob: A guard may ask you to move along but that doesn't mean a) that you have to, nor b) that you're doing anything to justify such a request.

Security people get nervous and jittery, but that doesn't mean you have to do whatever puts them at ease.

by Low Headways on Jul 21, 2014 10:37 am • linkreport

The White House guards are apparently better trained in appropriately dealing with threats. What does that say about the L'Enfant guards?

by DaveG on Jul 21, 2014 10:38 am • linkreport

Malls that charge for parking, like Pentagon City, have to have entrance and exit gate infrastructure,etc which would have both capital and operating costs. Additionally it would mean that to provide free parking for shoppers, they would need to get their parking tickets validated, which would take time, in addition to the time to get through the gates. Foregoing the revenue from commuter parking, in order to retain the free parking experience for shoppers might well work as a business strategy for the mall. At some point, as more people arrive at the mall by non-auto means, that decision might shift - and the market clearing price for commuter parking would play a role.

I would add that although Fairfax County is allowing temporary parking lots, I doubt the County wants to encourage the malls to shift to providing commuter parking. Bringing more vehicles into the area of the malls precisely at the times when the roads are most crowded does not seem to align with the plans to make Tysons roads continues to function even as development proceeds.

by CrossingBrooklynFerry on Jul 21, 2014 10:40 am • linkreport

It is strange that the owners of the Tysons malls won't charge commuters to use their parking lots. I certainly hope that most Silver line riders take various bus routes to reach the Silver line stations but I assume that most of the parking for the malls at Tysons is unused/underused during typical 9-5 work hours and this would be a way for these landlords to earn extra revenue.

It's not that strange.

It would be very difficult to set up a scenario where you charge commuters but let shoppers and employees park for free in the same lots/garages. How would you communicate that? How would you enforce it? Particularly when there's strong incentives to cheat the system.

In short, if they tried to set up a paid commuter lot, they would still need all of the same enforcement measures in their free lots. The only way to avoid this would be to go to 100% paid parking (e.g. Pentagon City). And they may end up there, but perhaps they (and their tenants, and the surrounding area) aren't ready for that yet.

by Alex B. on Jul 21, 2014 10:40 am • linkreport

@Alex B.

What about a ticket system and allowing free parking for three, four, maybe five hours during the week, and then charging beyond that?

by alex on Jul 21, 2014 10:47 am • linkreport

re: cargo containers

Did I read correctly that each of these apartments are going to have 6 bedrooms and 6 baths? Sounds like student housing. Steel sounds like an appropriate material for student housing.

by Richard on Jul 21, 2014 10:49 am • linkreport

What about a ticket system and allowing free parking for three, four, maybe five hours during the week, and then charging beyond that?

They might get there eventually, but such a system would require a substantial investment and the reconfiguration of their existing parking garages (just take note of the size of the pay lanes at Pentagon City, for example), and they'd have to apply that to five big parking garages and a couple of surface parking lots, all with multiple entry/exit points.

by Alex B. on Jul 21, 2014 10:56 am • linkreport

The Buzzfeed article was very interesting. Imagine if the website had sent a brown person to do the article? -- I'm sure the profiling, and resultant hassling would have been much worse. The clear issue here is a lack of good training and proper direction from management that trickles down to the regrettable behavior shown by individual guards.

by Scoot on Jul 21, 2014 10:56 am • linkreport

@sbc,

My takeaway from the UT article wasn't that yuppies don't want 3BR condos, but that they're more interested in living in condos that families are, which is undoubtedly true. Though I think your next point, that it's about $/sq. ft., is the largest reason why developers aren't building larger condos. Unless they're super-high end there's not much incentive to currently build them.

Did anyone else notice that the large condo development planned for 11st SE plans to exceed minimum parking requirements?

by Fitz on Jul 21, 2014 10:57 am • linkreport

Metro is running simulated Silver Line trains this week.

Wonderful, less trains for the Blue Line! Immediate result? Chaos at Franconia-Springfield with a unmarked train first being announced as Blue Line to Largo with Arlinton Cemetery as final destination marked on the side, then turning yellow after leaving the station. Also, standing room only from Franconia-Springfield on the Blue Line.

security guards repeatedly hassled him

Aahh, freedom of the press is a easier to preach abroad than to practice at home.

They can feel free to tell anybody to leave.

That is debatable. Enforcers of the law should not ask people to stop doing things within their rights. That is abuse of authority.

@ kobYou take a photo of a security area, and far better framed one, in 5 secs, and then move on.

Why would you? Do photographers have to hide their work?

They don't like it. They don't want you there and they will tell you to leave.

It is not the job of security personnel to express their likes. Their job is to provide safety within the limits of the law. Not to intimidate people to stop doing harmless, legal things.

by Jasper on Jul 21, 2014 11:01 am • linkreport

larger condo builidngs would work if

The market is negligible, so families looking for a starter home (or relocated to DC - more common) are pushed into emerging neighborhoods or suburbs when condo could be a viable option in neighborhoods well suited to families like Tenleytown or Cap Hill. The apartment/townhouse dwelling families I know (not many, but a few) appreciate not having to deal with yards, major home maintenance, etc. They're busy and it frees up time with their kids. They don't really want to live in the burbs. They also don't need tons of space, but it has to be smartly allocated and provide at least minimal storage space. A single parking space is often enough for an urban family.

Of course developers can squeeze a lot more units into a development of studios and 1 br but the results lack diversity on many levels. SE Waterfront is rapidly moving in this direction.

by anon_1 on Jul 21, 2014 11:05 am • linkreport

kob: who cares what security people "like"? we are, in theory, a society ruled by law. if we, as a society, determine that it's ok for security guards to issue arbitrary orders to people on sidewalks then the law should reflect that. as it stands, the most they can do is "request", but it's extremely coercive when a poorly trained/informed person with a gun starts telling you loudly what to do, based on their personal likes and dislikes. maybe the photographer was being confrontational, maybe not--but the security guards should not have been issuing those instructions in the first place.

by Mike on Jul 21, 2014 11:18 am • linkreport

Sad news about Ed Tennyson. He was a treasure trove of information and experience and a strong and knowledgeable advocate of rail transit. His last letter to Dr. Gridlock was a perfect example. He will be greatly missed.

by rg on Jul 21, 2014 11:19 am • linkreport

@Scoot, serious question: Are you familiar with typical security procedures? I'm certainly not, just wondering if you are.

If you aren't, how can you say there is a "lack of good training and proper direction"?

If you are knowledgeable of issues related to security, what is the proper training and direction in such a situation?

by jh on Jul 21, 2014 11:20 am • linkreport

I had the opportunity to discuss Vienna/Tysons bus routes with Ed once. I echo what others have said already, and every planner or engineer should really strive to be as informed and active in the community as Ed was. Safe travels Mr Tennyson.

by Navid Roshan on Jul 21, 2014 11:48 am • linkreport

On the larger/family condos, it really does boil down to the fact that you get more $/sqft for smaller units than small ones. Which makes total sense, since people without children have a larger percentage of their income to devote to housing than people with children. Family housing will be less lucrative as a result.

by Dizzy on Jul 21, 2014 11:54 am • linkreport

Dizzy

That would imply that no one would ever build 3BR+ housing anywhere, ever. They have done so, of course, when supply is able to catch up to demand for smaller units. Thus in outer suburbs where 3BR + houses are routinely built, and in times past in many American cities where 3BR apts (though rarely 4br or larger) were routinely built.

Whether the areas in greater DC where the multifamily market is booming can reach that point, is debatable.

I would note however, that many new rental developments do include 2BR plus den units, which are often close to functionally equivalent to 3BR units. There may be more demand for that in rental buildings than in condo buildings though, as townhouses are a better alternative for families seeking to buy than for families seeking to rent.

by CrossingBrooklynFerry on Jul 21, 2014 12:03 pm • linkreport

West Tysons (aka Walmart) is adjacent from Spring Hill Station is apparently providing for paid parking.

Shoppers get 2 free hours (inside garage only). After that $5 for 3 hours, and it quickly goes up to a maximum of $20 per day. Makes it hard to justify having a longer get together in those restaurants doesn't it? Apparently having talked to a restaurant manager a while back, they're not thrilled by it.

Living near Galleria, I can tell you they have frequent patrols and do a pretty nasty job of blockading their parking, to the point that it's very difficult to make my way to the entrance of Corner Bakery Cafe for breakfast everytime I go. I imagine they will watch and they will know who the repeat offenders will be and will not hesitate to tow. I can see TCC going the same way.

Of course I still don't believe there will be a demand for parking in Tysons... if you knew what a PITA it is to leave Tysons in rush hour, you wouldn't venture here. Now Wiehle and Herndon-Monroe... that makes sense... Few from McLean is going to "slum" it on Metro.. Vienna might be hit or miss opting to come up to Tysons instead of Fairfax or Dunn Loring. But what about the poor fools who choose to submit themselves to the American Legion Bridge who find their connection on the Red Line unbearable to the likes of Arlington?

by bernsa on Jul 21, 2014 12:27 pm • linkreport

@Scoot, serious question: Are you familiar with typical security procedures? I'm certainly not, just wondering if you are.

If you aren't, how can you say there is a "lack of good training and proper direction"?

If you are knowledgeable of issues related to security, what is the proper training and direction in such a situation?

Yes, I actually am knowledgeable of the proper training and direction in these situations. It is not proper to ask people to stop taking photos or to demand that photos be deleted from the camera. The outcomes of numerous lawsuits and readily available directives are clear on these issues. See for example here and here. Being a photographer, I have to be aware of these laws when others are not.

When these rules are not followed, typically it means a failure in proper training or supervision. Most security personnel stationed outside buildings are following orders and are legitimately trying to protect the property; they are not experts on legal procedure and have the difficult job of balancing rights against the possibility that a legitimate security breach will happen on their watch. It's a tough job that can be made easier with better training and supervision by management.

by Scoot on Jul 21, 2014 12:46 pm • linkreport

They don't like it. They don't want you there

OK. I guess I can understand that.

and they will tell you to leave.

And that's where we have a problem.

by David C on Jul 21, 2014 12:48 pm • linkreport

Sure, you can sell smaller units for more $/sqft but they also cost more to construct. One reason why is that kitchens are the most expensive part of any home and you only have one kitchen whether it's a studio or 3br apartment. The question developers should be looking at is not $/sqft but rather profit margin (which incorporates both construction cost and sale price).

My guess is that the real reason developers shy away is that 3br units are more risky since the market for them is less established and it's harder to guarantee their success based on comps and past performance.

Or, maybe folks just aren't willing to pay what a 3br needs to cost for it to be equally profitable to developers as a studio. Maybe a 3br sounds more appealing to folks until they see the price tag and figure that for a little more they can get rowhouse.

by Falls Church on Jul 21, 2014 1:25 pm • linkreport

@David Alpert,

There is a huge difference between standing on the sidewalk / across the street for a second and taking a photo of the front of the building, and taking a close-in shot of a secure, side door entrance and security vehicle barrier.

The title of the article was "Taking photos of ugly buildings". Most of his photos aren't of the building or architecture at all, they are of tight, close in shots of something specific.

I am as big a critic of security theater of the next guy, but this buzzfeed author was clearly looking for conflict.

I have photographed dozens of federal buildings in DC over the past few years and not once have been questioned by a guard. The difference. I stood there for 20 seconds, got a shot of the "building" and moved on. I didn't walk up to a secure employee entrance, and zoom in with my camera to get a tight shot of the door.

I am shocked the response he got was as uniform as it was from building to building.

by Shells on Jul 21, 2014 1:41 pm • linkreport

@Falls Church

Apparently you have never heard of houses with Wet & Dry Kitchens; there are many that have both in the USA

by kk on Jul 21, 2014 1:47 pm • linkreport

I'm a little surprised they didn't put parking at McLean or Spring Hill. My guess is that demand actually outstrips any potential supply and it seemed better to meet 0% of the parking demand than 20% or something. That way you avoid the "she got parking, so why don't I" complaint. Guess we shall see.

by BTA on Jul 21, 2014 1:48 pm • linkreport

@CrossingBrooklynFerry

Yes, there are, of course, other factors that help determine demand and influence supply. If an area has crappy public schools, for instance, the family housing is likely to either be low-grade/public housing (lost, last, least) or luxury (kids going to private schools). With SFH, you also have not just the house but the lot as well, which has an effect.

As you noted, the question of supply catching up with demand for smaller units also plays a big role. Like you, I'm not sure to what extent that can happen in in the booming parts of the DC area.

Falls Church's points are well taken as well, although for kitchens specifically I'll note that many studios, efficiencies, and 1 BRs (and 2 BRs like mine) have very bare-bones kitchens because there's not room to entertain/host that big of a dinner, so there's no need to provide a kitchen that could cook one.

by Dizzy on Jul 21, 2014 1:49 pm • linkreport

The Wheaton Metro Station is adjacent to the Wheaton (sorry, Westfield at Wheaton) Mall. There's a parking structure between the mall and the metro station where,IIRC, cars coming in before 9 am are charged for parking, but after 9 am parking is free (there is also parking all around the mall, but further from the Metro station). The mall stores open at 9 am, and most commuters are presumably boarding Metro before 9 am, so this is one approach to shared shopping/Metro parking.

by John Henry Holliday on Jul 21, 2014 1:55 pm • linkreport

@BTA

Basically the same reason there isn't metro parking at Ballston, Virginia Square, Clarendon, Courthouse, Rosslyn etc. They're designed to be urban stops rather than park and rides.

by alex on Jul 21, 2014 2:02 pm • linkreport

What is BuzzFeed?

by selxic on Jul 21, 2014 3:08 pm • linkreport

What is BuzzFeed?

Be glad you don't know.

by Ian Cameron on Jul 21, 2014 3:30 pm • linkreport

Yeah but on the Orange Line there is thousands of parking spaces from EFC out to Vienna. They are only adding 5000 spots on Phase II and none particularly convenient to McLean or Tysons area. Wiehle is great for people from Reston or further out but it seems like everyone further in will just continue to drive around there.

by BTA on Jul 21, 2014 3:31 pm • linkreport

Ok, so maybe kitchens aren't the best example. But, my basic point is that usually construction costs for a 3br are less per sqft than for a studio. The square footage and construction cost devoted to kitchens, bathrooms, HVAC, etc. are not proportionally more for a 3br vs. a 1br. Bedrooms are usually one of the cheapest parts of a home to build.

by Falls Church on Jul 21, 2014 3:40 pm • linkreport

BTA

The parking at WFC, Dunn Loring, and Vienna is not that convenient to Clarendon or Court House. Tysons proper is going to be an urban area, where people will access the metro mostly by means other than park and ride (which does not have to mean walking/biking/bus - there will be parts of the Tysons Urban District of course where a cab ride will be cheaper than anything close to a realistic parking charge) The real issues are McLean and Great Falls - but they can access the Orange Line stations just as they do now, and parts of Great Falls can use the Reston Wiehle parking. McLean has many advantages as a low density suburb so close in - but with those advantages comes disadvantages, and access to the SL is going to be one of them.

by CrossingBrooklynFerry on Jul 21, 2014 3:44 pm • linkreport

@BTA

Certainly true. I think that it'll seem a bit strange not to have parking while Tysons is still very much configured in an auto-oriented fashion. Years from now it will hopefully make more sense. In the mean time, I believe there will be a temporary McLean lot, and there will probably be private lots/garages open to commuters in other places as well. One thing Tysons doesn't lack is parking, it's just that most of it is private now.

McLean/Tysons people would be encouraged to take buses to the metro, or drive to whichever orange line lot they were driving to previously.

by alex on Jul 21, 2014 3:44 pm • linkreport

Unfortunately I do know and recognize it for what it is, Ian Cameron.

by selxic on Jul 21, 2014 5:23 pm • linkreport

Claiming that Benny Johnson was "looking for conflict" is blaming the victim, Russian propaganda style. It's possible that the security guards at the first department alerted the ones at the other departments that a "terrorist" was walking around photographing their buildings, which I suspect is true because of the same challenge he received at every stop.

by Dave G on Jul 22, 2014 6:29 am • linkreport

BTW Buzzfeed is blocked where I work because it's "tasteless" - how does the blocking software determine that??? LOL

by Dave G on Jul 22, 2014 6:55 am • linkreport

@Dave G: very perceptive computers

by Mike on Jul 22, 2014 8:42 am • linkreport

@Shells
The title of the article was "Taking photos of ugly buildings". Most of his photos aren't of the building or architecture at all, they are of tight, close in shots of something specific.

Plenty of the ugliness of those buildings is derived from their terrible and hidden entrance areas.

It's amazing to me that this many people here have drunk the security theater kool-aid. Even if the reporter were trying to do harm, what does chasing him off do? Perhaps they should actually look at his credential and do a quick Google search that would confirm that he is, in fact, a reporter!

by MLD on Jul 22, 2014 9:04 am • linkreport

So how do these security guards propose to harass people taking the same pictures with telephoto lenses? This security theater is ridiculous LOL

by DaveG on Jul 22, 2014 12:15 pm • linkreport

Well, it seems this author, Benny was just fired yesterday from Buzzfeed for plagerising content in more than 40 articles. Excuse me if I am not going to take his version of this "story" as gospel.

Again, this guy was itching for conflict and his photos had nothing to do with ugly buildings or architecture.

by Shells on Jul 26, 2014 1:21 pm • linkreport

Shells,

When I saw that in the paper this morning, that was exactly my thought. He clearly lacks something in the "Journalistic Integrity" department.

People like this actually make it worse for anyone who wants to take pictures legally in a setting that is outside of the usual tourist realm.

by Lord Baltimore on Jul 28, 2014 7:52 am • linkreport

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