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SHA avoids the T word in 270 reply

Back in the summer, after an outcry over the high $4 billion price tag for widening I-270, the Montgomery County Council decided to hold off on any decisions until it could get answers to a few little pesky questions. They asked the Maryland State Highway Administration to respond by early September, but SHA took until the end of last week to respond. Despite the long time frame, their answers are a little thin on details.


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As Michael Dresser pointed out, they don't explain how much money will have to come from tolls, or how high the tolls will be. They do make clear that federal transportation funds aren't sufficient to pay for the project. Also, the state has maxed out its current transportation debt ceiling with the ICC, requiring the state legislature to raise the debt limit if they want to borrow money for this project.

Despite refusing to talk about tolls, the model seems to assume that there will be high tolls. They say that they don't expect a lot of "induced demand" from the road. That's only possible if the tolls are high enough as to discourage new settlement at the edge of the region. In other words, the tolls would have to be so high that it's not economically worthwhile for people to commute from new subdivisions in Frederick County.

What about ACT's transit alternative? They say they looked a transit alternative, but then rejected it. There isn't any more information about what that alternative was, or why they dropped it. The one reason they give for dropping the all-transit alternative is that it won't make travel faster for truckers or other drivers on 270 between DC and the Midwest. But will building a new road make travel faster for them? If the tolls are really high, and they want to pay the tolls, then maybe. But as we're finding out with the ICC, drivers don't actually want to pay the tolls.

Here's the bottom line. Either the road is too expensive for most people to use, or it will drive sprawl. If it drives sprawl, then it doesn't accomplish the improved mobility . And if the tolls are really high, then it doesn't benefit many people. Either way, the tolls won't pay for the road, so Maryland taxpayers from around the state end up footing the bill for a road that's either just as congested as the old road, or too expensive for most people to use.

Here is a more detailed paraphrased summary of the questions and their answers.

Q: How will you pay for this project?
A: We don't know. The federal money Maryland will get in the future isn't enough to pay for this project. We'll need other sources, but don't know what or how much.

Q: How much of the money will be "discretionary" funds that the state could use for other purposes instead, if it chose?
A: We don't know yet.

Q: Can federal highway money be "flexed" to transit projects instead? What about transit on a highway?
A: Except for a few small exceptions, yes. Some categories require approval from USDOT, some don't.

Q: We think the currently proposed transportation bill in Congress allows states to keep flexing funds to transit. Is that right?
A: We don't want to answer any questions about bills that aren't law yet.

Q: Can the state use federal "highway trust fund" money for transit instead of highways if it wants?
A: Not as the programs operate now. FHWA "highway trust fund" money can't go to transit; you have to use FTA money for that. Congress has to allow that money to go to transit if it wants to let states choose between the two.

Q: How much will the state pay in interest on the bonds it will have to sell for this project?
A: We don't know how much money would be in bonds, so we can't say. However, the state has already hit its debt ceiling with the bonds it sold for the ICC, and can't sell more under current state law.

Q: What do you think about ACT's transit alternative?
A: We don't have time to analyze it, but it doesn't benefit the truckers driving on I-270 which is one of the groups that the freeway project will aid.

Q: How long will it take to study this?
A: We already looked at an all-transit alternative, but took it out because it didn't really decrease VMT on I-270. If we looked at this alternative, we'd have to start the EIS over.

Q: How long will it take to study the effect of the Gaithersburg West and Germantown plans?
A: Not very long. We just plug them into the model and hit go. We already looked at this in a preliminary way and it will increase traffic on I-270 somewhat.

Q: Do you want to add lanes on I-270 south of Shady Grove?
A: We're working on that study now.

Q: What is the cost of bus service on I-270 and how much service would we get? How does that compare to the MARC improvement?
A: Buses will run every 15 minutes and carry about 2,900-3,400 people per day for a cost of $6-9 million. Improving MARC would cost $531 million and quadruple capacity to 26,000 people per day, but our model estimates about 15,500 riders. MARC reaches farther than this project, all the way to West Virginia.

Q: Your EIS says that there will be less pollution with the new lanes than without. Did that account for induced demand?
A: Our model doesn't figure there will be very much induced demand.

Q: Can you add an option for two reversible lanes, as some have suggested?
A: Sure, but we have to pick a preferred alternative from among the existing options first, and can then look at this.

Q: It looks like, since most of the traffic is in the peak direction, two reversible lanes are just as good as four new lanes with two in each direction. Is that right?
A: Yeah, it looks like you're right, but we have to rerun the numbers using new forecasts.

Read the actual answers here.

David Alpert is the Founder and Editor-in-Chief of Greater Greater Washington and Greater Greater Education. He worked as a Product Manager for Google for six years and has lived in the Boston, San Francisco, and New York metro areas in addition to Washington, DC. He loves the area which is, in many ways, greater than those others, and wants to see it become even greater. 

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Wouldn't the CCT help truckers by taking people who are already on the road off of it?

by Canaan Merchant on Oct 28, 2009 2:09 pm • linkreport

This is a first -- a GGW post that is trying to save drivers money.

by charlie on Oct 28, 2009 2:28 pm • linkreport

If the state can't sell more bonds, wouldn't that mean that from now on financing for transportation projects in Maryland is now limited to whatever they get in tax revenues plus anything extra budgeted from the general fund? From my understanding, and I'm guessing I'm wrong, they won't be able to borrow for construction so all projects not yet financed will be limited with regards to how fast they get built. As such, it should be slow going on those projects until some of these bonds are paid off. (Also, since tolls cannot be collected until after a toll facility opens, the fact that you're collecting tolls won't help much in this regard)

by Mario on Oct 28, 2009 3:06 pm • linkreport

I think the likely result is induced sprawl. The cost of the toll will be built into the disparity in housing prices between Frederick/Outer and Montgomery County. Currently the housing price disparity is affected by the congestion. A free expanded highway would promote sprawl, but with a smaller housing price split (more overall capacity). The toll is a premium to enter Montgomery County to work (since it will be priced during peak congestion, it will only hit the outer suburbanite drivers. That puts Montgomery County housing at a higher premium, it doesn't make for fewer commuters. The only way to make for fewer overall commuters is more housing in the inner suburbs and DC, or fewer jobs in the inner suburbs and DC.

If it didn't induce sprawl, then the congestion on the existing lanes would not be sufficient to get lots of drivers in the toll lanes. These are the LoS and average speed projections we've seen in the SHA reports that don't show much difference between the free and toll lanes. So no sprawl would mean insufficient tolls. Paying for the road *requires* lots of peak congestion in the free lanes.

by Brian D on Oct 28, 2009 3:17 pm • linkreport

Here's the catch-22. Improving commerce travel (in this case, trucks) helps with economic conditions, but unless they build truck-only lanes, any improvements that help trucks will help regular drivers as well. CCT would give some commuters a choice, but doesn't do diddly for the trucks.

Given the bottleneck situation at the Beltway plus the already-built-out right-of-way, I don't see how they could realistically add lanes south of Shady Grove. North of Shady Grove is another story, one which we've beat to death on this forum in the past.

by Froggie on Oct 28, 2009 3:18 pm • linkreport

Why not just post some of the actual questions and answers rather than paraphrase them? If your views are valid, the readers will be able to see your point and make up their own minds. As I recall, the blog that was linked by Mike Dresser and originally posted this info 48 hours ago did exactly that.

by Adam Pagnucco on Oct 28, 2009 5:43 pm • linkreport

I did link to the questions. I wrote the paraphrased part first, to try to understand what they were saying, and tried very hard to be even handed in doing so. If you think something is unfair, why not post your disagreement in a comment?

Just to make sure it's clear, I added a second link to the actual answers at the bottom.

by David Alpert on Oct 28, 2009 6:08 pm • linkreport

Bear in mind that a lot of this is following the federal criteria, which gives too-little heed of sprawl-inducement as well as too-little heed of future TOD. Essentially, it doesn't give much mind of future development at all, nor its shape, size, or form.

by Bossi on Oct 29, 2009 9:59 am • linkreport

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