Transit
Everybody wants a Circulator
During the DC Council's debate over the bill to replace the Georgetown Blue Bus with a Circulator, Councilmembers started to chime in about wanting Circulator service in their own Wards.
Mike DeBonis, who was Tweeting the meeting, covered the saga in 140-character bits:
mikedebonis Everybody wants a goddamn Circulator for their ward. Mary Cheh wondering why Ward 3 can't have one.
mikedebonis Harry Thomas Jr. wants comprehensive plan to bring Circulator (aka 'new private limo service') across town. Especially Ward 5!
mikedebonis Yvette: 'I haven't seen more than five people on a Circulator bus.'Others chimed in:
davestroup the only ward 3 circulator that might make sense would somehow hit glover park, cathedral, and connect to cleveland park metro.
sherrieindc CM Thomas refers to the Circulator as the 'private limousine' service for certain DC residents...what's wrong with WMATA-clean it up????
amorrissey @mikedebonis @davestroup while we're at it, can we get a Circulator route to the shore? i really hate driving there every summer.
IMGoph tell them to invest money in the streetcar system-the circulator is just a stalking horse for it.
RegBazile Transit svce based on whims of pols has no pax? Shocking!
IMGoph at least kathy henderson won't be able to accuse him of not trying to get for ward 5 what ward 6 has...sherrieindc has a very good point. We have a comprehensive bus network, the Metrobuses. They provide transit to most neighborhoods in the region and virtually all in DC. If we need to improve transit in various wards of the city, we should improve those.
That said, Circulator buses do play a valuable role: they are more attractive to riders who aren't regular commuters. It's a simple system with a few lines on relatively simple routes, running easy to recognize vehicles that charge a fare that doesn't require change or a SmarTrip.
They're good for getting people to major nightlife destinations that aren't on Metro, like Georgetown and Adams Morgan, or getting people around areas with high rates of walking, like 7th Street across the Mall or around the Mall itself (if only the Park Service allowed that). It would be even more powerful if DC started promoting a combined map to residents and tourists.
It'd be great if Historic Anacostia, Minnesota-Benning, and Fort Totten were big tourist destinations one day, but that evolution should happen around Metro stations or the development that streetcar lines could bring, and is a ways off in the future.
There is a transit plan for all wards (mostly excepting Ward 3), and that's the streetcar plan. As IMGoph pointed out, the Council's eagerness for upgraded transit citywide should focus on the streetcars, not the Circulator.
More broadly, the fragmentation of our region's buses into numerous operators across jurisdictions brings problems. The buses aren't all on one map. The schedules aren't necessarily coordinated. Technology improvements like NextBus rolled out on Metrobus don't apply to the others. And sometimes, jurisdictions have cherry picked popular and potentially profitable bus routes and take them away from Metro.
On the other hand, various bus systems do create some opportunities for competition. It's similar to the way federalism gives states a chance to experiment and innovate in various areas of the law. ART can try out a different kind of service, or Ride On can try working with Google Transit, without the huge Metrobus system having to do it.
It's terrific that Councilmembers are so interested in improving transit service. If they want to move beyond mere posturing, they'll think about the best ways to actually improve their wards' transit, whether that's a red Circulator, a blue Metrobus Express, a streetcar, or something else.
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by Ben on Feb 2, 2010 4:51 pm • link • report
by Eric F. on Feb 2, 2010 4:59 pm • link • report
by Neil Flanagan on Feb 2, 2010 5:05 pm • link • report
by Neil Flanagan on Feb 2, 2010 5:06 pm • link • report
by David on Feb 2, 2010 5:38 pm • link • report
With that said, I think it's also the case that the Circulator's scheduling system has proven superior to the Trapeze system that Metrobus employs. It may not be practical to use that for routes that are more commuter-oriented, but perhaps some compromise is possible. Having signage that said "every ten minutes during peak times; at 6 and 36 past the hour other times" would be a huge improvement. I'm sure there are a lot of practical considerations standing in the way of this, but a guy can dream...
by Tom on Feb 2, 2010 5:52 pm • link • report
by Canaan on Feb 2, 2010 5:54 pm • link • report
"1) The section of the Circulator route north of M Street on Wisconsin is our most difficult operating environment we have anywhere in the system. Traffic congestion is terrible, parked cars interfere with the traffic stream, the roadway is narrow, and Circulator buses lose their driver-side mirrors frequently (we have had 85 mirrors knocked off in the last two years, mostly on Wisconsin Avenue, costing $800 each to replace). Delays caused by Wisconsin Avenue operation ripple throughout the entire line on K Street to Union Station. Running on this section was intended to be a temporary detour while the Wisconsin Avenue bridge over C&O canal was replaced, but has now essentially become permanent.”
The Skoda streetcars the District is purchasing are 8-feet wide. This would make the streetcars easier to operate on Wisconsin Avenue than the wider Circulator buses. Additionally, if a Wisconsin Avenue streetcar route was built, you could eliminate curbside parking on the section of Wisconsin Avenue from Calvert to M Street/K Street and overall mobility will still improve. The average city block has about 10 curbside spaces. Assuming (this is just an estimate) 1.2 passengers per vehicle, there are approximately 12 passengers per block with curbside parking. Meanwhile, the Skoda streetcars can hold 157 passengers. I'll gladly trade 157 passengers for eliminating curbside parking. The demand for parking in parts of Georgetown could actually decrease, even with the elimination of curbside parking, because more reliable transit provided by a streetcar will encourage people to switch modes and leave their vehicles behind.
by Ben on Feb 2, 2010 5:57 pm • link • report
by Jasper on Feb 2, 2010 6:23 pm • link • report
The downside is that some of the routes in the Circulator system are duplicative of WMATA service. It may be a better approach in many instances to improve WMATA service along the major arterials by increasing frequency, implementing bus lanes, skip stop service and other bus priority measures and utilize the Circulator as a neighborhood/destination connector--more of a true circulator with a looping route--connecting neighborhoods with both destinations and major arterials.
Jim Graham's proposal for a transit board composed of DC Council reps, Mayors office and elected members from the community would be a better review system than simply leaving it to the shifting politics of the DC Council to determine bus routes for the Circulator. You can't get away from politics altogether, but the City Council determining bus routes? There has to be a better way.
by kreeggo on Feb 2, 2010 6:53 pm • link • report
by Adam F on Feb 2, 2010 7:19 pm • link • report
Regarding Wisconsin Ave: I work on Wisconsin, south of Tenleytown, and tried to take the 30's to lunch north of Friendship Heights. Even with NextBus, it took so long I wished I had driven. To be fair, first I wished for more frequent and/or express lunchtime bus. Knowing that wasn't the reality, I wished I had driven.
by Dee on Feb 2, 2010 7:21 pm • link • report
WMATA doesnt even need to do the skip stop thing; all they really have to do is make one bus on routes with many lines an express.
Take the 52/53/54, 42/43, 81/82/83/86, E2/E3/E4/E6, or 90/92, and many others and just have one of those lines designated as an express bus/or have it only stop at bus stops every 2 miles or so making only minimal stops; there is no reason why you couldn't have the 53, 82, E2 or 90 only stopping at certain high traffic stops while merging the other routes and having those lines stop at all stops along the route the buses do not even have to run every 10 minutes like the 79 or anything they could operate every 25 minutes and it would still be beneficial to people
by kk on Feb 2, 2010 7:28 pm • link • report
by Chuck Coleman on Feb 2, 2010 7:30 pm • link • report
by Canaan on Feb 2, 2010 8:21 pm • link • report
They're cleaner, cheaper, faster, and more reliable. Why aren't people about taking away Metrobus money and giving it to Circulator, instead?
by Justin on Feb 2, 2010 8:25 pm • link • report
by Rich on Feb 2, 2010 8:50 pm • link • report
I agree that it does cause the bus to back up sometimes, though--the light timing presents a challenge on K St. It'd be great to have a system that would keep the light green a little longer for the bus to make it through.
Another major chokepoint during rush hour for the Union Station/Georgetown route is Washington Circle during rush hour. I've seen buses going towards Union Station held up trying to enter Washington Circle from Pennsylvania Avenue for 5, even 10 minutes!
by Steven on Feb 2, 2010 9:15 pm • link • report
The Metrobus lines in DC are sometimes confusing. Turning at every street. Why is there no bus line along Mass Ave, for example? Instead, there are several bus routes that travel over portions of Mass Ave. To me, Metrobus has only so-so headways. The 30s service along Wisconsin isn't that great, esp. in the non-peak direction, for example.
The Circulator buses do not deadhead in the non-peak direction which means I know, no matter which way I am headed, a bus will be along soon.
Just my opinions.
by Transport. on Feb 2, 2010 10:21 pm • link • report
The blocks on K are the same as any lettered street, such as P St (home of the G2), and there are stretches where the Circulator doesn't stop at every block--I know because its the case near where I pick it up. Washington Circle is a bottleneck, esp. Eastbound.
by Rich on Feb 2, 2010 10:50 pm • link • report
by Rich on Feb 2, 2010 10:58 pm • link • report
Yes, the circulator runs into gapping and bunching problems (like any bus would), and yes I think it stops too frequently on K St. But it's only a dollar! When the fares increase on metro, commuting via circulator will save me about $30 a month, which is pretty awesome.
by stacy on Feb 2, 2010 11:39 pm • link • report
What is the cost recovery ratio like for Circulator lines?
by Squalish on Feb 3, 2010 7:17 am • link • report
If I'm reading the NTD contractor data correctly, the recovery ratio (fare per $ of operating expense) is about $0.66. Not surprisingly this is higher than the overall MetroBus number, since Circulator runs on only select routes, and doesn't have the same labor costs as WMATA.
by MLD on Feb 3, 2010 8:45 am • link • report
The Fairfax Connector is a service directly from the County. The website is part of the County website.
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/connector/
by Jasper on Feb 3, 2010 11:03 am • link • report
People want a Circulator because it's a better bus. Many riders don't need every route to stop every 2 blocks, and are fine with walking a half mile if they need to. And for whatever reason there is better overall mental health among the Circulator riders than on the metro buses.
by troy on Feb 3, 2010 11:12 am • link • report
by Mike Licht on Feb 3, 2010 1:47 pm • link • report
Long distance commuter buses are a special case. With few exceptions, there is simply not enough demand to provide any midday service. These are generally privately operated under contract to the providing jurisdictions.
by Chuck Coleman on Feb 3, 2010 8:22 pm • link • report
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