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WMATA Board discussing budget, NextBus, and more today

I'll be live-Tweeting today's WMATA Board meeting.

This morning, the Finance and Administration Committee will debate the operating budget and next Metro Matters agreement. There will then be an executive session followed by a special full Board meeting (PDF) to announce an executive search firm for the General Manager search and discuss the recent near-miss on the Red Line.

Finally, this afternoon the Customer Service, Operations and Safety Committee will discuss safety, NextBus performance, the bus and rail fleets, and issues with bus fareboxes.

Below are tweets from the meeting. If you aren't familiar with the individual members, here's a list.

#WMATA now discussing budget

Hudgins recommending finance committee decide on fare hike today, but service levels and rest of budget in June #WMATA

Graham: Board has never voted on fares in a vacuum without knowing about other parts of budget, like service, subsidies #WMATA

Graham asks why 15% increased max fare not on the list because he asked for it last time (and also emailed earlier this week) #WMATA

#WMATA Board now discussing peak of the peak. Balances spreading out load and also revenue gain

#WMATA's Tom Harrington calls peak of the peak "to and through" an "added benefit" to WMATA because it hits more people.

Hitting more people is not the point, though - want to only hit people where trains are most crowded #WMATA

Zimmerman: Should look at narrower peak of the peak time period and higher peak of the peak charge to offset #WMATA

McKay: Service ramifications of peak of the peak? Kubicek: Will probably even out load #WMATA

Sarles: AM peak has enough service to accommodate shift; evening, could shift some people later to when people also going to events, #WMATA

Graham asking "what's the gap" in the budget. But that assumes parking increases taken out. He's rhetorically caving on it. #WMATA

There's no "gap" if you start with the GM's previous budget. That should be the starting point. #WMATA

Zimmerman wants to increase bus SmarTrip-cash difference. Graham says it would hurt the poorest of the poor. #WMATA

Benjamin: But the lower the income, the more careful people seem to be, most likely to get passes, SmarTrip, etc. #WMATA

Staff going to go research requests around max fare, narrower peak of the peak and try to get something by Board meeting later #WMATA

Graham again questions why #WMATA can't implement fare systems, then plug in final fare numbers at last minute.

Kissal says can do that, but increases "risk" of getting it right July 1, which is high ridership weekend #WMATA

RT @wbjsarah: Graham on incr. bus, but not Circulator fares: Going to lose revenue on routes where Circ parallels busy routes #WMATA

Kissal: Part of this is about updating signs, etc. as well - not just about typing fare number into the computer #WMATA

#WMATA board committee leaning toward now picking one of the options from the peak of the peak chart to give guidance to staff

Graham now un-caving on parking? Saying "was willing to see what could be done" to cover removing parking. #WMATA

But instead, we just took it off the table ("between the cup and the lip"). Willing to consider taking pkg off, if revenue from elsewhere

Benjamin: Thinks narrower options are "interesting from a philosophical point of view", but thinks too complex

Albert: DC not ready to increase jurisdictional subsidy beyond $12M increase from last time #WMATA

Benjamin: Maryland WILL cover increase of $16.something million. Great news. #WMATA

Zimmerman: Now parking increase is off the table, but has largest fare increase ever, and still cuts bus and rail service #WMATA

Zimmerman: Would vote against this budget. If parking fee went back, could take away all service cuts, or other options #WMATA

Zimmerman: As soon as anyone on committee started talking about anything, it just got dropped, but those were ad hoc decisions #WMATA

McKay: Anyone who thinks a parking increase is not a fare increase is not paying attention #WMATA

McKay: Parking is a fare increase in people who are most fundamentally impacted by this budget already. #WMATA

Does McKay realize that Fairfax has people who take the bus to the rail? #WMATA

McKay now attacking subsidy for bus ride vs. subsidy for a rail ride. #WMATA

McKay: "I take personal exception to the idea of raising the parking rate"

Graham: How about reducing parking impact by only increasing at lots that fill early #WMATA

Graham: Late night change (DC request) was $3.6M, parking (Ffx request) was $6.5M.

Benjamin saying by including peak of the peak in max fare, it is going up close to 15%. #WMATA

Yeah, but then min rail fare going up MUCH more than 15%. #WMATA

Graham: Committee is going to be giving guidance to staff without full Board approval, and which wouldn't pass full Board bc of veto #WMATA

Graham: Want special meeting of full Board to review & approve guidance #WMATA

Motion clarified to say that this is just committee report, not "guidance". #WMATA

Passes with Graham voting no, all MD & VA members (on the committee) voting yes #WMATA

Now on to capital. Asking Board to distribute draft of new Metro Matters agreement, agree upon framework #WMATA

Downey: New capital agreement should include requirement that governor request funds. #WMATA

Zimmerman: Should separate out federal funds, which are supposed to be "extra", from rest of funds #WMATA

#WMATA going to have hearing on capital budget 1st week of June, same night as RAC meeting

#WMATA says they think NextBus customers are happy because there are few complaints.

However, there's no easy way to make a complaint from NextBus if you aren't happy. #WMATA

If everything working properly, if bus doesn't move for 2 mins, NextBus stops predicting that bus #WMATA

Giancola on behalf of @DDOTDC: Can NextBus tell rider if there's an unpredicted bus not moving? #WMATA: Working on that

Also working on informing rider if bus route not running at this time of day or day of week #WMATA

Giancola: Poor quality of IVR system? #WMATA: Background noise makes that a problem

#WMATA announces that there was no unsafe situation in recent Red Line emergency braking: http://bit.ly/9bkJ3q

RT @wbjsarah: Metro says it uses NextBus to mk sure buses don't bunch, but regular clumps of S2 and S4 buses I see tell a different story

#WMATA says NextBus performance is increasing in all garages

#WMATA: Predictability just means 78% of buses have predictions? Trying to make sure I understand here

Bus is considered on time as long as it's less than 2 mins early and 7 mins late. Zimmerman: That's a lot. #WMATA

David Alpert is the Founder and Editor-in-Chief of Greater Greater Washington. He has had a lifelong interest in great cities and great communities. He worked as a Product Manager for Google for six years and has lived in the Boston, San Francisco, and New York metro areas in addition to Washington, DC. He loves the area which is, in many ways, greater than those others, and wants to see it become even greater. 

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Could someone suggest that MetroBus managers remind bus drivers to always keep the NextBus GPS on?

by ed on May 13, 2010 9:51 am  (link)

NextBus performance has significantly decreased since last fall. I can almost gaurantee that each morning my bus line, which comes every 6-8 minutes, will show buses coming 20 minutes apart. There is a serious problem with bus drivers not turning on their transponders (or perhaps they're broken). Also, I have seen an alarming increase of ghost buses, particularly around Dupont. You can watch the non-existant bus show up in predictions all the way through its route. I hope the board calls for some audits. It would seem to be an easy thing to check the nextbus data against the real check in reports.

by Reid on May 13, 2010 10:08 am  (link)

I'm looking at the Twitter feed and thinking, gee, why the WMATA folks talking about HITTING more people??

by Greenbelt Gal on May 13, 2010 10:18 am  (link)

At what point do we start talking about the peak of the peak of the peak? This new fare system is going to be wayyy too complicated.

by D on May 13, 2010 10:25 am  (link)

@D: If you ride the Metro between 8:15 a.m. and 8:20 a.m., the base fare will be $25.

by Tim on May 13, 2010 10:47 am  (link)

@Reid

It's not really the drivers that turn on the GPS, they have to log into the radio system that WMATA uses for central control to track them. There are some problems where there are driver badge conflicts (two buses logged in at the same time with the same badge ID) or assignment conflicts (two buses with the same assignment). This seems to happen when there is either a run that needs to be filled on or when a driver is called to do a run that isn't a part of their schedule. Another problem I've seen is that since the GPS linked to the scheduling system, if a run is supposed to be complete at 3:30 and the bus runs late, the radio will automatically log the run out even though it can still be tracked by central. I understand there are still some bugs and technical issues that need to be worked out. It's mainly the scheduling system and the data from it that's the problem with some buses not showing up in Nextbus (and sometimes hardware issues).

by K Conaway on May 13, 2010 10:57 am  (link)

Any word on Google Transit status?

by schmod on May 13, 2010 11:00 am  (link)

I'm glad Graham realizes $1 fares on the circulator are going to hurt against $1.65 bus rides. Circulator provides better buses, better performance and a better experience for less. Hmm, I wonder why? Oh, that's right. Wages and pension/benefits.

Of course the GGW answer would be to raise circulator fares....

by charlie on May 13, 2010 11:08 am  (link)

Actually the Circulator is more heavily subsidized as a fraction of operating costs. DC just pays more for circulator as a fraction of costs than the jurisdictions pay for a typical WMATA bus.

Also, DC isn't proposing cutting back on circulator, so there's no need for us to propose anything.

by Michael Perkins on May 13, 2010 11:11 am  (link)

When I asked Sarles about whether he thought we were making the fares too complicated, he mentioned that his old agency had just simplified the fare system, but I'm not sure you'd like the way they did it.

They eliminated the off-peak fare discounts.

by Michael Perkins on May 13, 2010 11:13 am  (link)

HA! They're asking each other how Roberts' Rules work. Literally just spent 35 seconds asking each other which motion was on the table and who was in charge of doing what with it. No one in the committee actually knows that they're voting on right now.

by D on May 13, 2010 11:29 am  (link)

@MP

They should consider eliminating off-peak fares.

K

by Kaleel on May 13, 2010 11:31 am  (link)

@mperkins, I'm sure ATU will say something about Circulator drives not making a living wage, but I agree, that is more on the profit side of first transit than on the subsidy side.

Do you know where I can pull down the circulator budgets? When I got to ddot, I find a lot of planning documents but not budgets. They wanted the original fare to be 50 cents!

by charlie on May 13, 2010 11:54 am  (link)

Thanks K Conaway. What us the explanation for ghost buses (i.e. buses that show up on Nextbus but which don't actually exist)?

by Reid on May 13, 2010 12:30 pm  (link)

This fare hike thing really is outrageous.

I've been in the workforce for a few years. I make a modest living. I have a relativity inexpensive 1 bedroom in Ballston and travel to Foggy Bottom to work (not GW, not Fed). If I could afford a car (and thus, already owned one), I would drive in a heartbeat.

Right now my commute is 1.95 each way.
That is $3.90 each way. I stand the whole way (if I'm lucky to get on board).

The trip is short, scheduled to be 11 minutes. They want to raise it even more, then add an extra surcharge of 20-50 cents on top of that.

Let's see. 15% fare increase is 30 cents. My new fare is 2.25 each way. Add on the 50 cent surcharge and I'm at 2.75 each way.

That is a 41% fare increase! And for what? What do I gain with a 41% fare increase?!?

Can someone please answer this?

by Ben on May 13, 2010 1:05 pm  (link)

@Ben; the answer of course is we don't want low-income earners like you in the metro area. Go move to Baltimore or something. Or take your bike in. But whatever you don't, don't buy a car and enjoy a nice air-conditioned commute in from Ballston. It's about 30 minutes, less if you know a few short cuts, and parking ins't expensive.

by charlie on May 13, 2010 1:19 pm  (link)

@Kaleel: I'm not taking that bait.

by Michael Perkins on May 13, 2010 1:25 pm  (link)

@Ben, perhaps there are many Ballston residents in the same boat. Investigate ride-sharing?

by Turnip on May 13, 2010 7:31 pm  (link)

@ben you could also try the 38b if you're headed to the farragut square area

by Michael Perkins on May 13, 2010 7:55 pm  (link)

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