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Streetcars on the TV: CNN featured DC's streetcars, interviewing Tommy Wells about the promise of streetcars and Marcel Acosta about the overhead wire debate. Gabe Klein shows off the tunnel near Union Station and talks about the hybrid option.
thecranks@dcwatch: Richard Layman respects its good government work, but themail@dcwatch is also a great place to see the crankest antis react to policy issues. This week features a streetcar diatribe that resurrects the "planners hate cars" argument (Gary Imhoff, the editor, loves them), and which Layman rebuts, along with some ad hominem attacks on the Barnes Dance, Mary Cheh tax proposals, and more.
Barnes Dance barn dance: On a lighter note, several people forwarded plans to stage a "barn dance", "complete with overalls, plaid and straw hats," tonight at the new Barnes Dance in Chinatown. (Facebook, Bossi)
Community, students won't stop UMD anti-transit stance: UMD officials are still unmoved in their determination to close Campus Drive to buses and cars, calling it a trial and saying the closure will help them determine the effect. However, they're closing it in the summer, which is very different from other times. (The Diamondback) ... To understand why UMD behaves this way, see this profile of retiring President Dan Mote, who tenaciously pushed for new road connections to UMD while simultaneously opposing the Purple Line transit connection.
Virginia can't afford new freeways: Freeway building is just plain really expensive. The McDonnell administration is trying to keep I-95/395 HOT lanes alive, but besides Arlington's lawsuit, the state may not have the money to pay for its share, which was massive for the Beltway lanes. And state officials say counties may have to pay for new interchanges, since the state can't afford to. (Examiner, Leesburg Today)
Tysons "piecemeal" street grid?: Fairfax County staff are concluding that the street grid has to be planned "piecemeal," which doesn't sound like a recipe for a very good street grid. The community also debated counting affordable housing in units or in bedrooms, the minimum size of projects (20 acres, which is a lot), and whether to leave parks wild or build ballfields and other recreation. (Connection)
And...: Aren't city dwellers "ordinary people," too? (Post, Topher Mathews) ... Congressional Republicans blocked a proposal to increase teleworking because it will cost $30 million now, but others say it would pay for itself through increased productivity (Baltimore Sun) ... Frank Gehry calls LEED ratings "political" and "bogus."
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I'm not against making telework available in order to reduce commuting, but I'd really like to see an audit of how many teleworkers actually did a full day's work on the snow days. And how often that "productivity" actually comes into play.
by ah on May 14, 2010 9:48 am • link • report
In terms of teleworkers for federal workers, I'd say it improves productivity a lot by getting the malcontents to stay at home.
by charlie on May 14, 2010 9:53 am • link • report
He supports streetcars, but was fiercely critical of how DDOT has done the H Street project. It's spent some $22 million, without a single contract having been submitted for Council approval (by law, every contract over $1M has to be submitted for Council review and passive approval).
It also has streetcars down H Street, but no starting point or ending point or propulsion mechanism (i.e., underground electric, overhead cables, etc). And there's the entire issue of whether DC has the statutory authority to amend/ignore the overhead wires law (Phil pointed out that if the Feds say "no overhead wires, period." that's the end of the project because there's no Plan B).
Graham and Tommy Tax Wells just poo-poo'd Mendo's concerns about the H Street line, but they didn't really offer any counterarguments to his issues. Their view was, basically, "Streetcars are great. We'll work out all the issues later. The Anacostia line contracts and legal issues are totally ok."
I've said several times that I see the streetcar obsession as more about nostalgia than anything else. I also still haven't seen any real explanation as to how the city can afford to build, operate and maintain the system given what's likely to be long-term budget spending pressures.
Although I generally disagree with Mendo's bleeding heart attitude about everything, on this issue he was clearly correct: DDOT has rushed through the program without an actual fully-developed plan in place and without complying with contracting laws.
by Fritz on May 14, 2010 9:57 am • link • report
The Sun's article says teleworking saved $30 million a day during the snow storms. I'd say it's a safe bet that there's at least one snow storm each year that closes federal offices in the DC area. Now, if this legislation went through and made it easier for people to telework, it would save MORE money. So really, we'd be paying $30 million over the next five years in order to save AT LEAST $30 million per year.
Also, people don't realize that $30 million is practically nothing in the federal government. Michael Steele said "Republican members opposed the bill because it would add $30 million to the deficit." There are many, many more programs that could be cut and save a LOT more than that. For example, stopping either of the two wars we're in for one day.
by Tim on May 14, 2010 10:01 am • link • report
He cites San Francisco as an example of tourist trap streetcars - except that he seems to be talking about the cable cars (which are a tourist trap), not Muni's light rail/streetcar system, which carries 162,500 people a day - not to mention the 221,500 rides each day on their fixed-route trolleybuses.
It's not even a matter of him taking a stance in opposition to streetcars, he's just plain wrong on a lot of his 'facts.'
by Alex B. on May 14, 2010 10:07 am • link • report
I'd say it's a safe bet that there's at least one snow storm each year that closes federal offices in the DC area
Actually it is my understanding that before this season the federal government hasn't had a snow day since 2003.
by Wheatoner on May 14, 2010 10:09 am • link • report
by Froggie on May 14, 2010 10:19 am • link • report
I didn't mean to restrict it to snow storms. I should have said that each year, there's at least one event that makes it extremely hard for federal employees to get to work and causes either a closing or liberal leave. The nuclear summit is an example of this.
by Tim on May 14, 2010 10:23 am • link • report
by Dan on May 14, 2010 10:25 am • link • report
by Redline SOS on May 14, 2010 10:34 am • link • report
by Ben on May 14, 2010 10:44 am • link • report
by Cavan on May 14, 2010 11:07 am • link • report
by Jazzy on May 14, 2010 11:07 am • link • report
But I distinctly remember 3/2/09 being a liberal leave day due to the snow we had that morning.
by Froggie on May 14, 2010 11:10 am • link • report
by ah on May 14, 2010 11:17 am • link • report
by Wheatoner on May 14, 2010 11:18 am • link • report
I openly welcome dissenting viewpoints, and agree that they are an important factor in any decision-making process. However, most of what gets posted on themail@dcwatch is poorly researched, and often flat-out wrong.
If he wanted to quote figures about how much the streetcars would cost to operate, or how much CO2 they'd produce to support his argument, I'd be a lot more receptive to his ideas. However, his nebulous "bazillions" figure, and disdain of 19th-century technology make it very difficult to support his argument.
The organized dismantling of the American streetcar networks also wasn't a far-fetched conspiracy. Although other factors did indeed contribute to their demise, a federal court found Standard Oil and GM unambiguously guilty of the conspiracy in the 1940s after the damage had already been done.
Also, the guy railing on the Barnes Dance appears to have absolutely no idea what it is.
by andrew on May 14, 2010 11:30 am • link • report
by Mike B on May 14, 2010 11:31 am • link • report
by Neil Flanagan on May 14, 2010 1:01 pm • link • report
by Dan on May 14, 2010 1:08 pm • link • report
My head hurts after reading the DCWatch page, not just because of some of the idiotic comments (the stupid -- it burns!), but also because it looks like a website from the early 1990s. Did they import it from an old GeoCities site or something?
by Banksy on May 14, 2010 1:14 pm • link • report
Pretty much. It has been that way since it was created, and was solely an email list prior.
by Andrew on May 14, 2010 1:18 pm • link • report
In my case, during those days the federal government in Washington was closed down last winter, I continued to work from home as my employer's set up gives me that flexibility. My employer uses 21st century technology. On work where I needed to be able to communicate with government clients out in California and elsewhere, I was able to continue my work. On work where I needed to communicate with government employees here in the DC area, my projects suffered some serious schedule set backs because I wasn't able to get the inputs I needed from these folks. (Their agency didn't require telecommuting as some did.) Were these folks really in complete incommunicado and not able to communicate with their friends and family in the area (and beyond) during that period? Of course they weren't. As it does in the 21st century, life went on ... Unless, of course, that life during the snow storm meant doing something like participating in a giant snow ball fight down around Dupont Circle ... instead of working ... Long story short is that we don't live like we used to where the weather could affect our plans. The electronic marvels of the era have made weather ... and even being physically present in the same place ... a non-requirement. And while you may say 'the folks just used their vacation time' (and hence switched their time around) the reality is that the setback of the schedule I was working on cost the government lots of dollars in unquantifiable costs ... just because the efficiency of modern communication was cut off because ... well, because ... someone decided not to work 'cause it was snowing out ... not because they couldn't just as easily make a phone call or chat or send emails or do just about anything they can do from their office ... but because at the heart of the matter, they really wanted the impromptu and unplanned for day(s) off.
by Lance on May 14, 2010 1:23 pm • link • report
Seriously? You're gonna criticize them for so un-coolly not getting the name right?
by Jazzy on May 14, 2010 4:46 pm • link • report
by Lance on May 14, 2010 4:53 pm • link • report
by stacey2545 on May 14, 2010 9:24 pm • link • report
by Lance on May 14, 2010 10:56 pm • link • report
And sure, maybe I'm being too nitpicky about someone calling it a "Barn Dance" while criticizing its use. But I'd like to think people who weigh in on such things are up on at least some of the basic historical details. Especially in the age of Google.
by Mike B. on May 14, 2010 11:22 pm • link • report
How should we calculate the externalities of spending tens of millions of dollars on a system that apparently isn't even halfway thought out as to how it will work or be funded?
Of course, by the time that occurs, no doubt the DDOT head honchos will have moved on to other jobs.
But it's simply stunning that the local commentariat is more focused on the style of Gary Imhoff's rant, rather than the substance of his argument that the streetcar plan is an EPIC FAIL waiting to happen.
by Fritz on May 16, 2010 7:08 am • link • report
Imagine the conversation where the sale for these was made "...ohhhh your image with the public will be soooo good."
by Douglas A. Willinger on May 16, 2010 1:22 pm • link • report
Did you go and see the streetcar when it was on display at the old convention center lot? I can assure you that the cars are indeed bi-directional, they have cabs at both ends.
If you're going to attack DDOT and the DC Gov for planning without all the pertinent information, perhaps you should make sure that your statements square with the facts.
by Alex B. on May 16, 2010 2:14 pm • link • report
by Lance on May 16, 2010 7:47 pm • link • report
Where else would the streetcar come from? Unless you're suggesting that somewhere there is a streetcar that matches the exact same model and exact same livery as the 3 in storage in Greenbelt.
Yes, we know for a fact that the car on display was one of DC's 3.
Yes, we know for a fact that all of DC's streetcars are and will be bi-directional.
by Alex B. on May 16, 2010 8:26 pm • link • report
by William on May 16, 2010 8:45 pm • link • report
by Michael Perkins on May 16, 2010 10:00 pm • link • report
(Maybe someday DC will order bidirectional Pentos - streetcars with the capacity of about four standard buses)
by egk on May 17, 2010 12:32 am • link • report
It also has streetcars down H Street, but no starting point or ending point or propulsion mechanism...
I think one of the things that folks forget is that putting rails in on H Street is meant to be a cost-saving measure. We're laying the rail because the street is being stripped down to the bed, and if we don't do it now, we will have to rip up the street again at some undetermined point in the not-too-distant future.
Regardless of what sorts of contingencies cause the schedule for H Street streetcars to slip, as long as we're in agreement that a streetcar line will run on H Street at some point, there's no question that putting the rails in now is a very prudent, fiscally responsible thing to do, and exactly the sort of thing that would have never happened in a million years in "old DC".
I just don't understand the argument, "We don't even know where they'll turn around yet?" Unless the project is killed dead in the long-term, that's not an argument against laying track on H Street now, right? Or am I missing something?
by oboe on May 17, 2010 1:07 pm • link • report
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