Transit
Owner of H Street tunnel not so eager for streetcars
In April, DDOT presented an exciting plan to run the planned H Street streetcar through an existing tunnel under the H Street "Hopscotch" bridge. However, one obstacle still stands in the way of that vision: the current owner of the tunnel, Potomac Development Corporation.
The current tunnel runs under the H Street bridge and the Amtrak tracks, and is about the width of a 4-lane road. Currently, the center two lanes are kept clear for ingress and egress, and Amtrak uses the side lanes for parking.
PDC, which also owns the REA Building at 900 2nd Street, NE, adjacent to the tunnel on its eastern end, also has a parking garage that opens onto the tunnel and a loading dock just outside it.
DDOT hopes to run streetcars on the center lanes, to a single-track station connected to an existing tunnel to Union Station Metro, with a track connection then across First Street to a maintenance facility under the bridge's western end.
On May 7, PDC President Richard Bell sent a letter to DDOT Associate Director Scott Kubly saying they opposed using the tunnel for the streetcar:
After reviewing sketches and meeting with DDOT on three occasions, we are convinced that running streetcars through the H Street tunnel will unreasonably interfere with our use of said tunnel and the adjacent public space, which is critical for access to our garage and loading dock, and essential to the operation of our building.
Even if you could find ways to minimize interference with our uses once operations begin, the construction phase is likely to be especially disruptive. And, according to a DDOT employee at one of the meetings, you anticipate replacing the H Street Overpass in approximately five years, during which time we expect to suffer interference with out use of the tunnel. We see no reason to subject ourselves to such interference twice.DDOT replied, making a number of points. First, on operations, other vehicles can continue to use the tunnel as well, just as the streetcar will operate in mixed traffic. DDOT plans sliding gates at each end to prevent other vehicles or pedestrians from going into the tunnel, and the platform will have gates as well so people waiting don't venture into the tunnel.Furthermore, according to you, DDOT ultimately intends to run the streetcars over the Overpass. As taxpayers, we object to the District building this two-block run of the streetcar line twice. Please instruct your personnel and contractors that we will no longer provide access to our portion of the tunnel.
DDOT argues the tracks are not duplicative because, even once the streetcars go over the overpass, the track segment would still be used to access the maintenance facility.
As for construction, DDOT says they "are committed to minimizing" disruption to PDC and Amtrak. Moreover, Kubly said DDOT believes the project will increase the value of PDC's property (the tunnel) by providing ventilation and fire suppression which are not currently present, improving drainage, and creating a streetcar stop next to their building.
Later in the PDF, DDOT responds to engineering concerns that Amtrak has raised about attaching the overhead wires to the underside of the underpass, operational concerns about the long-term use of the tunnel for loading access to Burnham Place, the development project planned atop the railyards, and more.
When Phil Mendelson raised objections to the streetcar project, saying it has "no beginning and no end," he was partly talking about this issue. Mendelson told Eric Fidler that he's not satisfied DDOT has determined the full costs of building this end and what is required to secure the necessary easements.
He makes a good point, and DDOT needs to work out these issues. However, it's not a reason to delay getting started on the entire streetcar project for years. When Metro was being built, plenty of operational issues arose during construction. They had to retrofit for elevators, and the Park Service refused to allow a Farragut transfer station under Farragut Square. They worked around them.
Likewise, DDOT can work around these issues if they can't work something out with PDC. They have other options for the siting of the maintenance facility and how to turn the streetcar around on the western end. Those aren't as ideal as using the tunnel, which would hide the facility in otherwise unused space under a bridge and which would get the terminal station right to Union Station Metro, but they can happen. And in the long run, the streetcar will go over the bridge anyway and stop in front of the new Burnham Place with a connection to the Metro station.
It's also odd that PDC has so firmly closed out consideration of. Perhaps PDC's letter is simply a negotiating position. But especially with the last paragraph "as District taxpayers," it sure sounds as though they are opposed to the streetcars in general.
This is a genuine issue and one DDOT should keep the public up to date on whatever solution gets worked out. It also would have been nice for us to have found out about it sooner. However, any project hits plenty of small hurdles, and this won't be the last.
Under the final Council budget decision, DDOT can go ahead with car purchases, but has to present detailed plans to the Council. That's a sensible approach that will ensure the issues are thought through while also letting this important project move forward as quickly as possible.
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by Tim on Jun 2, 2010 10:48 am • link • report
by Adam L on Jun 2, 2010 10:58 am • link • report
+1
by Cullen on Jun 2, 2010 11:08 am • link • report
by Sand Box John on Jun 2, 2010 11:19 am • link • report
That said, DDOT needs to find a way to get two tracks running through this station.
by andrew on Jun 2, 2010 11:20 am • link • report
by andrew on Jun 2, 2010 11:22 am • link • report
Why does DDOT need to get two tracks? If I'm understanding correctly, this is a terminal point for the line, so a streetcar would enter from one end, load/unload, then leave toward the same direction it came. Why does this require two tracks?
by kidincredible on Jun 2, 2010 11:36 am • link • report
by Andrew on Jun 2, 2010 11:42 am • link • report
by Stanmton Park on Jun 2, 2010 11:43 am • link • report
by Adam L on Jun 2, 2010 11:51 am • link • report
by Lou on Jun 2, 2010 11:55 am • link • report
And presumably they have other requests as well, but from here it looks like they're just trying to get the strongest possible hand going into negotiations and/or litigation.
by fedward on Jun 2, 2010 12:06 pm • link • report
Georgetown may or may not want/get a piece of the action too, although that's hypothetical at best.
by andrew on Jun 2, 2010 12:12 pm • link • report
DDOT has not completed the basic planning that is needed for a project of this scale. DDOT has done a great job of marketing this project and the business community that hopes to benefit from it as signed on as DDOT lobbyist.
Now, I am not against having a street car system in DC, but DDOT's plan is a ugly duck. As DDOT's plan fails to address the fundamental issues of traversing this DC from East to West without going the the core of the city on north to south routes. Finally, DDOT is possibly wasting taxpayers dollars ordering street cars and laying track for a system in which they have not determined how to powered. Because the planning has not been completed.
by jeff on 8th on Jun 2, 2010 12:13 pm • link • report
by Reality on Jun 2, 2010 12:14 pm • link • report
I wholeheartedly agree. If you can't trust a DC city bureaucracy to make the right decisions, who can you trust?
by MPC on Jun 2, 2010 12:21 pm • link • report
by Lance on Jun 2, 2010 12:23 pm • link • report
by kidincredible on Jun 2, 2010 12:53 pm • link • report
The tunnel actually goes over the red line but below the amtrak lines. I have toured part of the tunnel, and in most places in there, the clearance is incredibly high.
by Paul on Jun 2, 2010 1:10 pm • link • report
by Mike on Jun 2, 2010 1:25 pm • link • report
That's exactly my question, too. Why screw with the (narrow, 1-lane, privately-owned) tunnel at all if you are ultimately just going to run the streetcars over the bridge anyway? Seems like they are going outta their way to 1) make it more complicated than it needs to be or 2) screw with PDC.
This is no issue worth holding up the project, though. This is resolvable, and I would hope without needing to resort to imminent domain.
by Glenn on Jun 2, 2010 1:43 pm • link • report
They are going under the Union Station yard because a) this route will provide current and future access to a storage and maintenance facility, and b) because, as David indicated in the opening post, the Hopscotch bridge will need substantial work in the near future, hence laying tracks on it now would mean tearing them up again very soon.
by Alex B. on Jun 2, 2010 1:50 pm • link • report
In order for the streetcar network to be successful, it needs to integrate into Metro and DC's other public transportation systems. The Union Station connection is crucial.
These plans to route the line over the bridge are news to me. I'll add my name to the list of the bewildered.
(Speaking of bewilderment, why did DC allow that tunnel to pass into private ownership after the hopscotch bridge was built?)
by andrew on Jun 2, 2010 2:27 pm • link • report
DDOT envisions the tunnel to remain the property of PDC and Amtrak. DDOT would like to request that it be granted an easement to allow tje construction and operation of the streetcar facilities...
Where are you getting the idea that it is planned to be condemned?
by jcm on Jun 2, 2010 3:02 pm • link • report
I don't think Lance meant that the city is going to condemn the property in the natural language meaning of the word (i.e. close it down). I'm not a lawyer, but I believe condemnation is one of the legal processes used by the government to take property under the rules of eminent domain.
by Adam L on Jun 2, 2010 4:15 pm • link • report
I.e., they will grant themselves an easement, while PDC would "retain full ownership and use of their facilities"
But I'm not sure how forcing someone to provide an easement that interferes with their use of the facilities allows them to 'retain full ownership AND use of their facitilites' ... Clearly this is a threat being made to PDC, and it doesn't provide businesses with confidence that they will be treated fairly. Alos t is DDOT's assessment that it will not impact PDC's operations ... not PDC's. Is it any surprise PDC reacted with such determination?
by Lance on Jun 2, 2010 4:29 pm • link • report
Remember also that eminent domain does not require the outright taking of the land itself, it can just be the taking of an easement or some other legal right of access.
by Alex B. on Jun 2, 2010 4:30 pm • link • report
by Lance on Jun 2, 2010 4:39 pm • link • report
Did DC ever actually own that tunnel? Wouldn't it be part of the railroad's easement rights?
by Lance on Jun 2, 2010 4:43 pm • link • report
In this case, for a public transportation project, if DDOT has to resort to taking the land or an easement, then it is certainly a reasonable use of their powers. It's certainly a far smaller amount of land than would be needed for a freeway like the ICC or a public building like Nationals Park.
In fact, in California in the 1960s, my family had two different apartment buildings taken through eminent domain. One by University of California for a dorm that was never built, and one by BART. The landowner receives compensation - the amount is the part typically in dispute, and I agree that this letter sounds like a negotiating tactic. Things get trickier when you're talking about people's homes being torn down, but this is an office building.
by Tony Goodman on Jun 2, 2010 4:44 pm • link • report
by andrew on Jun 2, 2010 4:54 pm • link • report
I'm also disappointed that the direct connection (underground) to Metro is just temporary. I was excited about it, but my excitement has been stunted. And, no. I don't think running the tracks over the bridge is or ever will be a (convenient) direct connection to the Metro.
I hope this segment is completed soon, but my frustration stems from the fact that the initial groundbreaking for DC streetcars was held back in November 2004. Does anyone care or do we just give the city a pass because we love/like streetcars?
Does anyone know long it took for other cities to build their streetcar/light-rail projects from concept to line opening? Did they also announce things without most of the plans and logistics issues being worked out first?
by otavio on Jun 2, 2010 5:03 pm • link • report
Don't worry. The connection to the Metro will be there regardless of whether the streetcar is under the tracks or on the H Street bridge.
The Union Station Intermodal Transportation Center study explains about building a new northern lobby, which would have an entrance on First Street NE (streetcar level) and also on H Street NE (bridge/parking deck level).
The ped tunnel was built in 1975 but never finished. It's nice that that will be getting done.
by Matt Johnson on Jun 2, 2010 5:07 pm • link • report
1 Do something about the Ciculators at Union Station which stop at the garage making it hard and time consuming to transfer to Metrobuses that stop infront of Union Station and Metrorail at the bottom of Union Station.
2 Plan the streetcar stops near current transfer points along the H Street/Benning Road route.
3 Be consistent with plans; the Ciculators stop every block along K street but no where else does it stop so frequent it stops about every 4 blocks: either stop every 4 blocks everywhere or stop every block.
4 Hard to transfer between Circulators (McPherson SQ)
I hate Eminent Domain almost always the land owner gets screwed in the situation for BS reasons such as giving land other private individual/company, land use not for public good (taking the land from someone to build an office building). If a person does not want to give up there land they should not have to and if your force them to than you should be required to do what you planned with it within 5 years or if should be given back.
by kk on Jun 2, 2010 5:42 pm • link • report
~EZ
* As we all know, there are no dumb questions, just dumb questioners. :-)
by EZ on Jun 2, 2010 6:01 pm • link • report
by davidj on Jun 2, 2010 7:56 pm • link • report
They have a general idea of how the story begins and ends, but have no clue what to do in the middle part, so they just make up a whole lot of stuff and hope no one notices.
And if anyone asks about the stuff that doesn't make sense, they're reassured the finale will be super duper awesome and will answer all the questions.
by Fritz on Jun 2, 2010 8:14 pm • link • report
The tunnel actually goes over the red line but below the amtrak lines. I have toured part of the tunnel, and in most places in there, the clearance is incredibly high.
This picture proves otherwise.
The portals north of the Union Station metrorail station are under the ramps between the "hopscotch bridge" and the garage.
The track descend downgrade above the old H street underpass. They are at least 8' below the elevation of the track in Union Station at their highest point.
by Sand Box John on Jun 2, 2010 11:44 pm • link • report
Fortunately, this case is completely different.
by wmata on Jun 3, 2010 2:11 am • link • report
by mtp on Jun 3, 2010 11:16 am • link • report
Legal fights can be long and costly ... I'd say you need to expand the options to 'or DDOT will just have to wait until the H St Bridge gets redone and tracks included on it'. (I.e., If PDC decides to oppose this matter, as their letter indicates, we could be talking about years of negotiating/litigating ... So many years that if DDOT is looking at this as a 'temporary' solution, the 'temporary' part will be long past before this matter gets resolved.)
Now wouldn't it have made sense for DDOT to settle this major hurdle before announcing their plans to run the streetcars through this tunnel. Might not have PDC been more willing to work with DDOT if at least the major points of an agreement had been worked out beforehand? If I were a betting man, I'd bet that that tunnel will never serve as a link to Union Station.
by Lance on Jun 3, 2010 12:39 pm • link • report
by tom veil on Jun 3, 2010 3:04 pm • link • report
by John M on Jun 14, 2010 10:39 am • link • report
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