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911 dispatchers not aware of Metropolitan Branch Trail
A group of young men tried to push a cyclist off his bike on the Metropolitan Branch Trail yesterday. When he called 911 to report the incident, the dispatcher seemed unable to enter the incident into the database because the trail isn't a "street".
Brookland resident Laura reported on the MPD 5th District community listserv,
My husband has started riding his bike on the Metropolitan Branch Trail between Brookland and downtown. Yesterday evening around 6:30pm a group of 6-8 young men were gathered along the trail in the area between the NY Ave Metro and Rhode Island Ave Metro, and attempted to push him off his bike. He was riding fast, so they weren't able to do it, and fortunately nothing else happened.A long-standing weakness in DC's 911 service is its reliance on having a precise address to enter incidents in the database. In 2001, confusion over the address of the FDR memorial delayed emergency responders by 30 minutes. Residents of residential alleys also report having trouble getting police service.However, he called MPD to report it, and felt like they weren't aware of the trail or where it was. At one point he was transferred to Park Police, presumably because of the "trail" part, and then back to MPD, who didn't seem sure what part of town he was talking about.
I thought I'd post this incident here, to make sure there's awareness of the trail, and also the probable need for more police presence on it so bikers, walkers and commuters can feel safe using the trail.
DDOT's Heather Deutsch said that DDOT is looking into ways to get the trail into the 911 database, perhaps even by coding it as a "street" not open to motor vehicles. The trail has solar-powered lighting (which isn't the oxymoron it sounds like at first), but until the trail develops a heavier usage, it would help for MPD to patrol it and, most of all, to ensure that any problems reported can be quickly located and passed along to officers.
Update: MPD's Lamar Greene followed up to say:
The Fifth District officers are aware of the trail and have begun patrolling the trail as a part of our normal duties, unfortunately the trail is secluded and I recommend utilizing a buddy system when traveling through the area. Unfortunately, we have made several arrests on the trail already for various disorderly issues that have been observed.And Lieutenant Christopher Micciche wrote, "If the need to call 911 arises, please refer to the nearest cross-street and the railroad tracks." In the past, at least, some have reported problems getting crime reports filed without precise addresses. If the system now supports more general locations, terrific.
Wayne Phyllaier suggests that DDOT post signs listing the cross streets. That would tell the trail user what information to give MPD if they have to report a problem. He says the Custis Trail uses this technique.
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by engrish_major on Jun 16, 2010 11:22 am • link • report
by Andrew S on Jun 16, 2010 11:28 am • link • report
http://www.thewashcycle.com/2010/06/attacks-on-ne-branch-trail.html
2) According to that same article in 2/3 of the attacks on the NE Branch Trail "personal property was taken from the victim."
by Jon on Jun 16, 2010 11:36 am • link • report
I've seen EMS get lost - even drive right past reported emergencies.
I sat in the front seat of an ambulance over a year ago. The driver was using MapQuest to get direction to Sibley emergency room from Connecticut Ave. He was driving and following mapquest and would not listen to my recommendation for the most efficient route their. Later when i asked him where he lived and how long he'ld been on the job, he replied No VA and one year.
by erahk0 on Jun 16, 2010 11:50 am • link • report
by Stanton Park on Jun 16, 2010 12:02 pm • link • report
by A on Jun 16, 2010 12:06 pm • link • report
by m on Jun 16, 2010 12:09 pm • link • report
by Wayne Phyillaier on Jun 16, 2010 12:17 pm • link • report
by Matt R on Jun 16, 2010 12:41 pm • link • report
by Jasper on Jun 16, 2010 12:52 pm • link • report
My hope is that the 911 system evolves. I agree that the system should be able to handle non-address locations.
It should be noted that it began when there were only landlines at easily definable locations, but has since had to go through growing pains with the advent of cell phones.
by Rob on Jun 16, 2010 1:00 pm • link • report
by Arlington1 on Jun 16, 2010 1:36 pm • link • report
The 911 system CAN handle non address locations such as intersections and place names. I know this as I have seen the backside of DC's system
by David on Jun 16, 2010 1:41 pm • link • report
by James on Jun 16, 2010 2:07 pm • link • report
by Rob on Jun 16, 2010 2:11 pm • link • report
by Wh on Jun 16, 2010 2:27 pm • link • report
Your phone can and does if you purchased it within the past few years. The problem is that DC's antiquated and poorly maintained 911 system is incapable of receiving and processing the information.
by Jacob on Jun 16, 2010 3:00 pm • link • report
by DCbureaucrat on Jun 16, 2010 4:50 pm • link • report
by dcbrewer on Jun 16, 2010 10:22 pm • link • report
by David C on Jun 16, 2010 11:29 pm • link • report
Me: there's someone who needs an ambulance. he's unconscious and convulsing.
Operator: what is the address?
Me: It's the Lincoln Memorial -- next to the Korean Memorial.
Operator: Ma'am, I need an address.
Me: It's the Lincoln Memorial! it doesn't have an address!
Operator: I need cross streets before I can send out an ambulance.
Me: Um, um, I think it's 23rd St NW and maybe Constitution?
I only lived in the city for a month and kept getting Constitution and Independence confused. Imagine being a tourist and having absolutely no clue. There aren't any street signs when you're on the Mall.
by louc on Jun 17, 2010 12:27 pm • link • report
Yeah, cuz cell phones are all the new crazy. Nice of them to catch up to technology of 15 years ago. Perhaps in 15 years from now, they will start getting ready to pick up the GPS coordinates that every cell phone has these days exactly for the purpose of aiding 911 calls?
by Jasper on Jun 17, 2010 1:14 pm • link • report
At a minimum, 911 dispatcher should be polite and work with people who don't have an address rather than just dismissing them rudely.
by Lynn on Jun 18, 2010 2:33 pm • link • report
DC's Office of Unified Communications (OUC) has a Computer Aided Dispatch (CAD) system, capable of entering locations as a street address, intersection, commonplace name (locations known better by their name than by their street address) and X/Y coordinate (latitude/longitude) data.
Not all 911 jurisdictions have CAD and those who do, the ability to record a caller's location depends on the data that has been previously entered. Not all jurisdictions will enter all public locations into their commonplace name file and those that are entered need to be maintained. (Not saying that is a good practice, just the way it is.)
DC has Phase II wireless, meaning that it can use the coordinate data provided when calling 9-1-1. The wireless service providers (e.g., Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, Sprint-Nextel...) deliver that data in one of two ways: handset-based GPS and network-based GPS. Regardless of the method, accuracy is dependent on a number of factors.
For the person who called from their home to report the incident, obviously, the GPS data would not have been helpful to the 911 call taker.
The OUC website (http://ouc.dc.gov) has a customer satisfaction survey. Would suggest you fill one out!
by 911 Guy on Jul 7, 2010 12:49 pm • link • report
From now on, I'm carrying a weapons bag on my bike (mace, U-lock, stun gun-if legal).
by The Mighty Mesquito on Sep 26, 2010 3:55 pm • link • report
by Karen on Oct 11, 2010 7:54 pm • link • report
I recommend you join up and ask there.
by Stephen Miller on Oct 11, 2010 8:40 pm • link • report
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