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Why the Blue Line needs to keep calling at Rosslyn
When discussing capacity constraints at Rosslyn, some suggest truncating the Blue Line at to make room for more Orange Line trains at Rosslyn. However, that is not the right approach.
For many commuters, the Blue Line is the quickest and most direct route to get to work. From Alexandria and points south and from southeastern Arlington, trains take riders directly to the job centers around Farragut Square and Metro Center.
As I pointed out, the Yellow Line bridge does not offer a quicker trip for those bound for the western side of downtown. Eliminating the entire Blue Line route through Rosslyn would severely inconvenience riders, and could affect ridership.
And at any rate, the Blue Line has ridership which, at present, is commensurate with the service levels at Rosslyn. Approximately 38% of trains at Rosslyn are Blue, and are carrying approximately 35% of the riders continuing through Rosslyn.
So the demand is certainly there for Blue trains via Rosslyn. At some point, as I discussed previously, it may become necessary to redirect some Blue trains via the Yellow Line bridge to make way for the Silver Line. Metro will probably make that decision based on the ridership patterns once the Silver Line opens and starts to build a rider base.
But it is still necessary to keep some Blue Line trains serving Rosslyn, mainly to meet the demand of riders headed to the western portion of Downtown and out the Orange or Silver Line corridors.
And if the service continues to Rosslyn, it must continue on to downtown DC. There are two primary reasons.
First and foremost, Rosslyn is incapable of serving as a terminal. It has two platforms and two tracks. There is no crossover at the station. In fact, any train that went out of service at Rosslyn would have to continue to Foggy Bottom and then enter the crossover just east of that station before turning around. And of course, as was pointed out with regard to the Yellow Line, headways are such that a pocket would be necessary anyway.
The other reason that any train serving Rosslyn must continue toward downtown DC is that it is already taking up one of the "slots" on the Orange/Blue subway. The switch at Rosslyn is capable of handling 26 trains per hour in each direction. If, say, 4 of those slots were given to Blue Line trains going out of service at Rosslyn, that would mean 4 fewer trains making it Downtown, period.
So barring a complete redesign of the station at Rosslyn, anything that makes it that far has to continue on to downtown DC. The first feasible place to turn back a train on the Blue/Orange subway is the pocket just east of Stadium-Armory.
With that in mind, some of you may be wondering whether the Blue Line even needs to go to Rosslyn. It does. Aside from the fact that the ridership shows that there is demand, there is more to Blue Line service through Rosslyn.
It is currently possible to travel from any one of Metro's 86 stations to any of the other 85 by taking no more than 2 trains. That's because every single line intersects every other line. In some cases, this happens twice. That adds redundancy to the system and makes Metro more convenient.
Cutting the Blue Line back to Arlington Cemetery would hurt not only Blue Line riders, but those in the core, too. This is because riders coming from Alexandria and south headed for Rosslyn, Ballston, or Tysons and vice versa are able to make that trip without entering the core. While giving all 26 slots at Rosslyn to the Orange and Silver Lines might seem to reduce crowding, the fact is that riders who currently change from the Orange at Rosslyn to the Blue would have to stay on trains all the way to L'Enfant - exacerbating problems in what is already the most crowded part of the system.
Crowding on the Metro is not going to ease any time soon. There are some steps that can be taken to reduce the current impact and stave off the time when the system runs out of capacity. These strategies include increasing the number of 8-car trains and better balancing of the multiplexed lines. But the only long-term solution will be to build a separated Blue Line, including exclusive platforms at Rosslyn.
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It is for people on the orange line who need to get to the Pentagon, National Airport or Alexandria.
Removing blue line trains from Rosslyn is going to make transfer times longer and longer.
So for the theoretical benefit of taking a silver line train to Dulles, you are going to make it harder for residents of North Arlington, Georgetown, West End, Dupont, and downtown to take the metro to National.
MWAA estimates that only 5% of passengers will take rail to dulles. I don't know the figure for National but it far far higher.
The real, ultimate answer, is to stop the Silver Line at Falls Church and let people transfer -- and not run in into Arlington/DC. Until you solve the tunnel and/or timing gaps, running a third line into the orange/blue crush is stupid.
by charlie on Jul 1, 2010 1:56 pm • link • report
I mean, in theory doesn't EVERY station between Stadium / Armory and Rosslyn have the same problem? Or does it have more to do with Rosslyn's 'switch' issue? The Blue and Orange lines run on the same paths through twelve other stations... Surely the Silver Line planners took this into account (or at least I hope so).
by Josh C. on Jul 1, 2010 2:03 pm • link • report
by M.V. Jantzen on Jul 1, 2010 2:05 pm • link • report
by Tim on Jul 1, 2010 2:13 pm • link • report
Now, if the Silver Line went to West Falls Church, which has three tracks, you might be able to configure it to use a track that the Orange Line isn't using, thus not disrupt the Orange Line. The Silver Line is extremely close to WFC, but not quite there.
by Tim on Jul 1, 2010 2:19 pm • link • report
Hence, the max headway WMATA references is 135 seconds between trains.
by Alex B. on Jul 1, 2010 2:19 pm • link • report
Maybe it could go to the yard turn off, but that doesn't really make sense.
by kidincredible on Jul 1, 2010 2:22 pm • link • report
The curse of the Silver Line.
by charlie on Jul 1, 2010 2:22 pm • link • report
As it is, it will be a heroic act of faith for those commuters that give up the car and take transit from Alexandria to Tyson's. If you make these people pass through L'enfant Plaza to get on a silver line train, it won't be as transformative we all have hoped.
Another glaring omission is the Orange line passengers that use Metro to get to DCA and the Pentagon.
by tom on Jul 1, 2010 2:23 pm • link • report
by jcm on Jul 1, 2010 2:27 pm • link • report
I am sure there willl be some commuters from Reston to Tysons, and a much larger number from Ballston and EFC to Tysons. Also a lot of people who metro to Tysons to shop.
(I won't be snarky and point out to boondoogle was sold to the public at rail to dulles, not rail to Reston)
The Orange line and north Arlington is one life support. The system is barely usable. Until it is switched to all 8 car trains, spacing is improved, and some solution to the tunnel is brought forward, running Silver line cars on it will be a disaster.
by charlie on Jul 1, 2010 2:33 pm • link • report
The more metro lines join together at some point, the bigger the headache becomes.
If the planners had looked around a little, they would have thought about the circle/district/metropolitan line in line and seen what TFL has decided to do to avoid all the problems associated with shared tracks. Instead it seems that funding was such a concern that they didn't care anymore about the rest.
by Vincent Flament on Jul 1, 2010 3:29 pm • link • report
by NikolasM on Jul 1, 2010 4:09 pm • link • report
Frankly, I don't care how the train was sold to the public. To me, the really useful part of it is Phase 1. The airport is just gravy, although it wouldn't surprise me if it winds up seeing decent use from ridership in the VA suburbs to the airport.
by jcm on Jul 1, 2010 4:33 pm • link • report
by Will on Jul 1, 2010 4:40 pm • link • report
by kk on Jul 1, 2010 4:42 pm • link • report
"MWAA estimates that only 5% of passengers will take rail to dulles."
Look at the experience in Chicago, where ORD and MDW are both served by CTA heavy rail. The airport ridership on those lines contains a far higher proportion of airport workers than of passengers. There's nothing wrong with that, since both markets contribute passengers to the line, but it's my expectation that the outcome here will be similar even though the Silver Branch is thought of by many as oriented to air passengers.
The extent to which Metro will be a reasonable choice for them will depend on things like how well the subway terminal integrates into the airport passenger facilities, travel time, service reliability: these are Metro's weaknesses, not its strengths. IAD is way out there at the end of what will be a long branch which I suspect is being built to the same standard as the rest of the system (no third main or passing siding and sparse pocket tracks) which will not lend itself to an airport express operation even if Metro could figure out how to run one.
So yeah, 5% is probably about right.
The line will have plenty of riders, no doubt about that, but few of them will be doing an air/rail intermodal transfer.
by intermodal commuter on Jul 1, 2010 5:05 pm • link • report
I'm sure this wouldn't be cheap.
by Steve on Jul 2, 2010 8:58 am • link • report
The trip out of IAD will be a lot like SFO. I haven't looked on the map but the distance is probably roughly the same. Side note: BART and Metro also use the same magnetic fare cards. I think they are the only two systems using the IBM type.
by Lou on Jul 2, 2010 9:08 am • link • report
@Lou; dulles -- 25 miles from downtown. SFO -- 13 miles from downtown.
According to BART, there are about 5500 people using the SFO station daily. And the FAA rules have more to do with stopping large jets from landing at DCA for noise reasons. MWAA does have their internal rules that might be adjusted, but again Arlington residents are the ones who demand that DCA flights be kept down.
by charlie on Jul 2, 2010 9:24 am • link • report
But that point aside, I use DCA exclusively for the sole reason that Metro is available. I don't have to pay parking or rely on anybody to pick me up. My preferred carrier offers flights out of both. With Metro going to IAD, it literally becomes a 50-50 proposition for me. I can take advantage of any lower fare out of IAD. I bet a lot of fliers feel the same way.
by Lou on Jul 2, 2010 9:51 am • link • report
You must not fly international much; that is why I use IAD. I love using DCA b/c of the metro access. However, as I've said, given the distance, crowding and cost I doubt I will be using the Silver Line out the dulles. The terrible thing is I'm sure MWAA will kill the Washington Flyer bus as soon as the line opens, and I'll be forced to take a cab or drive.
The crowding is the big problem. When I travel to IAD, I have to cab to falls church to get on the flyer -- impossible to take bags onto the orange crush. And since IAD is international, you sort of are guaranteed to have some luggage with you.
by charlie on Jul 2, 2010 10:05 am • link • report
"are we disagreeing?
5% of Dulles passengers, with a majority probably coming in from Tysons or Reston."
Not disagreeing at all.
The MWAA estimate seem reasonable. Like the rest of the region NoVa needs transit infrastructure and if routing the line out to the airport and calling it an airport service is what it takes to get it built and funded, that's perfectly fine - I just don't expect air passengers (particularly from downtown as you noted) to be a significant component of what will likely be high ridership on the line.
by intermodal commuter on Jul 2, 2010 10:14 am • link • report
See here:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=113262488393877820698.00048a48f3605231b7424
Thoughts?
by stevek_fairfax on Jul 2, 2010 10:26 am • link • report
The blue line should be a "Virginia Only" line and follow the Potomac to Dulles and encompass the silver line. I have no opinion as to whether it stays at Rosslyn or not.
The blue line in PG should end at the armory and be recolored as chartreuse.
Having to make a connection is not like having a appendage removed. Faster, more efficient lines will make transfers faster and more efficient.
by Jimbo on Jul 2, 2010 11:12 am • link • report
by Aaron on Jul 2, 2010 1:46 pm • link • report
TANSTAAFL (which stands for There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Loanercar).
by jim on Jul 2, 2010 2:42 pm • link • report
Here here! People seem to miss these facts. I really think it's sad and short-sighted to do the Silver Line in advance of solving the congestion problems. Quality of serve will continue to decline while Metro makes fare hikes. Not a way to create a "Greater Greater Washington"
@Tim wries: "...Now, if the Silver Line went to West Falls Church, which has three tracks, you might be able to configure it to use a track that the Orange Line isn't using, thus not disrupt the Orange Line. The Silver Line is extremely close to WFC, but not quite there..."
Why wasn't this considered for the Silver Line? I know there was a 'stub' at EFC, but it seems short-sighted to not consider how a short-term gain will cause long-term pain. Can WMATA be pressured to reconsider and fix their short-sightedness here?
@Vincent writes: "...Is this a case of let's build infrastructure but not think about the operational side of things as so often seems to be happening in big infrastructure projects? The more metro lines join together at some point, the bigger the headache becomes. If the planners had looked around a little, they would have thought about the circle/district/metropolitan line in line and seen what TFL has decided to do to avoid all the problems associated with shared tracks. Instead it seems that funding was such a concern that they didn't care anymore about the rest."
::: Agree wholeheartedly ::: I couldn't have said it better. Someone should be asking hard hitting questions of WMATA, because this is NOT good urban planning, it is the antithesis of it and we at GGW should be mad that WMATA is taking 3 steps backwards here.
by A. Walker on Jul 2, 2010 6:42 pm • link • report
However, the Rosslyn transfer station would also become less crowded if Metro or VDOT created a "purple line"-like system from Van Dorn through Landmark through Annandale/Burke and up to Dunn Loring. Residents around Alexandria can get on and ride up to Falls Church without having to go through Rosslyn.
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