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AU students need more, quality on-campus housing

American University recently presented neighbors with the latest draft of its 10-year campus plan.


Photo by the American University.

The top priorities are to increase undergraduate student housing and provide more space for student recreation, dining, and activities on campus.

The most controversial of the plan's elements is the construction of an East Campus, across Nebraska Avenue from the current main campus.

AU would like to increase its on-campus bed count capacity to 4,100 students, down from the 4,900 proposed in the previous draft. AU's dorms are currently designed to house 3,533 students, but through tripling students and agreements with the nearby Berkshire apartments, the university is able to hold over 4,000.

On-campus housing is better than off-campus housing for many reasons. It puts students closer to everything that happens on campus, from speakers to classes, and almost always means a better relationship between students and landlords.

But on-campus housing can't be built with paper-thin walls and stack students up like sardines. Meeting the housing needs of students means building exactly the kind of living that the east campus offers.

New dorms

The plan details a new dorm on South Side to hold about 200 students, an addition to Nebraska to hold around 125, and a series of dorms on East Campus meant for just under 800 residents. The increase in housing is meant to guarantee housing for both freshman and sophomores (currently, AU can only guarantee 85% of sophomores housing) and to reduce the number of triples, or the practice of cramming three freshmen in rooms meant for two residents.


Plan for the main campus. The dark color shows new buildings, the light color potential future development.

Currently a large parking lot, Nebraska Lot lies east of AU, separated from the campus proper by Nebraska Avenue, a fairly busy road. The plan calls for that space to be replaced by six buildings, four of which would be dorms (the other being used for the alumni center, the new campus center, and office space). Underneath the new campus would be an underground parking garage.

To ensure that students could only cross Nebraska at the signaled crosswalk, the entire campus would be fenced, with the only entrance/exit by foot being a gap in that fence near New Mexico Avenue (at its intersection with Nebraska). Two roads also enter the campus, but both lead to the underground garage.

Residents are concerned that this campus will be relatively close to their homes. The back of the furthest buildings rest 40 to 80 feet or more from the backs of the adjoined houses at Westover Place, and residents there are worried about how these new buildings will affect their lives.

With no real buffer between the homes and the lot currently, the height of the buildings (54 feet for the dorms and slightly lower for the others) have the potential to dominate their sights out of their back windows.

Residents also complain that noise from the dorms will disturb them. Many at recent ANC meetings have complained of potential and raucous partying (an unneeded anxiety, given campus policies) and the potential for vandalism, which is also unlikely.

Pedestrians at Nebraska Avenue


Photo by ehpien on Flickr.
Neighbors also complained that the increase in number of pedestrians crossing Nebraska would both disrupt the flow of traffic on that road and be dangerous for both students and drivers. Both claims require study, but cannot be determined at this time with the certitude residents put forward).

Regardless, the issue of East Campus remains the flash point of this campus plan, and the University doesn't seem to be willing to budge. While this draft (the third of this campus plan) showed a reduction of 800 housed students from the previous one, the number of students being housed on East Campus has been held more-or-less constant throughout the whole process.

The University insists that an East Campus remains the best place to house that volume of additional students, and that it will not negatively affect traffic flow. However, it could have done a far better job of explaining these claims at meetings with local stakeholders.

Retail and urban design

Retail would be part of the proposed east campus. Having more that students can reach by walking is good for the students, the environment, and the city's revenues.

Students should hope, though, that the University avoids the mistakes from past construction on the campus. It's hard for a business to survive on students and employees alone. Witness the failure of the McDonald's hidden away in a tunnel in the middle of campus, and the pizzeria before it.

Bringing the buildings with retail closer to the street could expand the buffer offered to our neighbors in Westover, help the businesses attract outside customers, and provide a visual cue to passing drivers to slow down.


Photo by NCinDC on Flickr.
The plan also shows the Washington College of Law moving to the Tenley campus, and calls for the construction of an Alumni Center, a new Campus Visiting Center, and several other new buildings.

Another facet of the plan is growing the number of enrolled students from 10,297 to 13,600. However, grad and law students dominate this increase in population; the number of undergraduates will be modestly raised from 6,300 to 6,400.

Several other issues have been raised by the community as well. Some say that the increased traffic from graduate students and new university employees will make the horrid traffic problems around Ward Circle even worse. Others raise the concern that dangerous chemicals from Army Corps of Engineers operations during World War I still remain around the Nebraska lot, and could prove hazardous to students living in dorms there. However, it's unclear what evidence there is to support this claim.

Parking

Finally, residents complain that the reduction in surface parking on campus will adversely affect the current problem of students parking in neighborhoods and walking to campus. Students do this often to avoid the high costs of parking on campus, which in themselves are meant to encourage students to carpool or walk.

The American University campus plan has attracted a lot of attentionmost of it angry and resentful. At the special meeting ANC 3D recently held on the campus plan, most of the normal complaints about students and universities were trotted out: students are all raging drunkards, the school is a neighborhood bully, further development will destroy property values, and did you hear about that time that one kid did that one ridiculous thing?

We agree more with some of the things we've heard our neighbors say than others. What we didn't hear was a lot about what the new plan means for students and what they need.

Student needs matter

What American University students want from our plan is simple: building for our needs. We aren't the only stakeholders in the process: professors and departments need be wooed and supported, and neighbors have legitimate concerns.

But at the end of the day, we are the university's customers, products, and inhabitants. We come to the school at what are often some of the most vulnerable, confusing, and thrilling times of our lives, and we rely on the campus, the community, and the neighborhood to help us make something of ourselves.

The campus plan is a part of that, and it's important that we make our voices heard in its crafting and implementation. Even if each of us is only here for a few years, together there are thousands of us here for decades. We want both the next few years and those future decades to be good ones.

Cross-posted from two posts at DC Students Speak.

Michael Panek is a freshman in the School of Public Affairs at American University. A proud Texan, he is passionate about local politics and is registered to vote in Washington DC. 
Adam Daniel-Wayman is a sophomore in the School of Public Affairs at American University. Originally from the Chicago area, he is now a registered DC voter. 

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Excellent Post! As an AU Alum, I think you guys hit all of the important points.

The local NIMBYs have been a thorn in the side of the University for years, and will be for years to come. Even though AU has been there for nearly 100 years, these people still seem to be agitated when it comes to AU expanding into 'their' neighborhood. Even though this proposed development will provide a great deal of amenities for the neighborhood, they still want NONE of it, which defies reason.

by John M on Mar 3, 2011 10:21 am • linkreport

I have been puzzled by the retention of the garage/parking lot entrance on New Mexico. The plans appear to show a second entrance on Mass. Ave. and it seems that could be the sole entrance to the remaining surface lot and the underground parking. That would reduce turning traffic at the New Mexico/Nebraska intersection, which contributes to the car/pedestrian congestion in the area and requires longer cycles for left turns from and to Nebraska southbound/westbound

by ah on Mar 3, 2011 10:23 am • linkreport

Anyone care to explain why AU students desire more on-campus housing while GU students oppose more on-campus housing?

Is it that AU has succeeding in creating compelling, community-creating spaces on campus that students want to be in more than they want to be off-campus?

by Ken Archer on Mar 3, 2011 10:37 am • linkreport

Here's a link to the full campus plan as it currently stands:

http://www.american.edu/finance/fas/2011-Campus-Plan.cfm

by ah on Mar 3, 2011 10:37 am • linkreport

Seeing as how Universities and students pay very few taxes to the district government --a government that also can't tax out of state workers or the vast federal government buildings, I can't for a second understand why anyone in DC would be against using more potentially productive land for tax exempt entities. It's just a MYSTERY.

Also, the last 1/4 mile between New Mexico and Nebraska is too constrained to allow a bicycle lane there. They'd need to add at least another lane to accommodate bidirectional bicycle traffic safely. I'm not sure that's a district priority right now.

by ahk on Mar 3, 2011 10:45 am • linkreport

Ken, GU students don't oppose more on-campus housing. I studied abroad for a full year, and I spent my three years at Georgetown living on campus. It was convenient to live on campus, but I wouldn't have chosen to live in a dorm setting for all four years. My senior year, I lived in a Nevils apartment, although apparently that building does not meet the definition of "on campus" because it is outside the front gates. The 1789 block project was intriguing, but it was removed because of neighborhood opposition to even grad students living there. The 1789 block project likely would have created "compelling, community-creating spaces on campus that students want to be in more than they want to be off-campus."

by Colleen on Mar 3, 2011 10:53 am • linkreport

@ahk - AU owns the land already, so it's already tax exempt.

DDOT explained that the bike lane would end before Nebraska and would have dotted lines for about 100 feet before.

by ah on Mar 3, 2011 11:11 am • linkreport

On-Campus housing not the answer for Georgetown vs AU students need more, quality on-campus housing

by Ken Archer on Mar 3, 2011 11:13 am • linkreport

Anyone care to explain why AU students desire more on-campus housing while GU students oppose more on-campus housing?

Do GU students oppose more on-campus housing? I don't think they do. I think they oppose the nanny-state regulation by the neighborhood.

As for why AU is able to add more on-campus housing, perhaps that has something to do with the massive surface parking lots on AU's campus - a condition you don't find down at GU.

by Alex B. on Mar 3, 2011 11:18 am • linkreport

It's clear the neighborhood is not interested in compromise.

They complain about students living in rented houses in their neighborhoods, but when it comes to building a new dorm to keep students on campus, they still complain. AU is not building a 13 floor “high-rise,” even if that would solve their housing problem. The new building will be human sized and fit organically into the neighborhood.

The Nebraska parking lot remains underutilized with about 50% of empty spots during the work week. Even during graduation, the lot doesn’t reach capacity. Building a new dorm there would not only remove the blight of a parking lot in a residential neighborhood, it still won't take away any necessary parking with their inclusion of an underground parking garage.

The neighbors bemoaned the closing of Balducci’s, complaining that AU was an unfair landlord. The reality is without local density, these local stores will never make enough to sustain themselves. Building retail into the buildings will make Ward Circle NW a walkable destination for all of those residents who live in AU Park or Spring Valley. Albeit they will likely remain cafés or restaurants, but the market forces should decide what works best.

Putting the law school at Tenley Circle not only raises the national prominence of American University and the Washington College of Law, it will bring professionalism and class to Tenleytown, which is often overrun by the abundance of high school students from Wilson High.

I believe AU’s 10-year plan has great ideas for the both the university and the neighborhood. While AU should be a good neighbor and work with the locals, I cannot help to imagine the neighbors will provide needless resistance and little compromise.

by cmc on Mar 3, 2011 11:19 am • linkreport

Ken, I don't think in either case the article writers speak for all AU or GU students. A set of AU and GU students want more on campus housing and a set of students want to live off campus. I very much doubt that it has anything to due with the relative vibrancy or compelling nature of either place.

by BFM on Mar 3, 2011 11:20 am • linkreport

@Ken Archer: Anyone care to explain why AU students desire more on-campus housing while GU students oppose more on-campus housing?

Is it that AU has succeeding in creating compelling, community-creating spaces on campus that students want to be in more than they want to be off-campus?

Compare the percentage of AU undergrads who live-on campus vs. the percentage of Georgetown undergrads that do. AU's percentage is way lower. For American, demand for on-campus housing currently exceeds supply. At Georgetown, supply and demand are about equal.

See what reaction you would get if you proposed forcing all AU students to live on-campus, the way the West Georgetown & Burleith neighbors are proposing to do with Georgetown students.

by Dizzy on Mar 3, 2011 11:20 am • linkreport

Good luck AU and GU - GW has built and renovated several new residence halls over the past two decades, more than doubling the number of students in university housing on the main Foggy Bottom and the Mount Vernon campuses, yet many local residents still complain. Sadly there is a lack of compromise or reason on the local end in DC when it come to Washington-based colleges.

by GWalum on Mar 3, 2011 11:26 am • linkreport

When I was living a student living in AU dorms, I was consistently perplexed by the bizarre construction of the walls- on one side of a dorm, the wall extended up as a normal wall should, creating a barrier with the room next to it, while on the other side (of every single room), the wall extended only to the ceiling tiles, essentially meaning that, noise-wise, you had 2 or 3 additional roommates. This may not sound like a big deal, but it affected the sleep and privacy of me and several of my friend so much that the dorms were, for us, completely unlivable, and we were forced to move off campus or lose our sanity.

When you say "quality housing," that doesn't just include things like not cramming 2 students in a dorm designed for one or 3 in a dorm designed for 2; it also means floors that don't smell like urine, ceiling tiles that aren't rotting and crumbling, and kitchen and bathroom facilities in good repair. Every time I revisited the dorms I saw things that would cause building to consitently fail DC housing inspections. The housing is for students, but the university charges more than one's own bedroom in a house or apartment (in good repair, no less) would be.

by cbishop on Mar 3, 2011 11:28 am • linkreport

@Ken Archer

The difference is that GU is housing something like 84% of its undergrads while AU is at around 64% (and as the article says only 85% of sophomores). In AU's case they have students who will accept dorm-style living or can be required to live in dorms - AU could build housing and then require sophomores to live on campus just like GU does.

Capturing the 16% of GU students who don't live on campus is tougher. You can't just build a block of double rooms and then force seniors to live in them - that's not a good way to make your university attractive. Though I guess Georgetown neighbors wouldn't care, judging by their positions they would just as soon have the university go away.

Also, as Alex says AU has a lot more space to build so you get more for your money than with the tiny slivers of land that people suggest GU build student housing on.

by MLD on Mar 3, 2011 11:32 am • linkreport

God, I would have loved the WCL campus to have been at Tenley Circle when I was there. I lived, literally, on top of the Van Ness Metro station, and in order to get to the building, I had to take a train up to Tenleytown, then wait for a campus shuttle - total of like 30 min. Whereas I could take my car right down Van Ness and be there in under 10. Guess which one I did?

Note that, while the university attempted to ticket in the neighborhood, they only really hit a 2 block swath with any consistency. Even when I did get the $75 hit, the car was registered in my parents name back in PA so they never got paid. Maybe they have a better system now, but I never understood the placement of WCL in a residential area with no real access.

by WCLAlum on Mar 3, 2011 11:34 am • linkreport

I'll co-sign what John M said and add that, essentially, the ability of AU to develop into a thriving institution depends on overcoming the extreme NIMBYism in Spring Valley/Tenleytown. The current campus is too small to house a decent number of students while providing attractive classroom/office space, so AU will have to start actually using land across Mass and Neb avenues. That means changes to traffic patters and probably allowing, gasp, actual retail options on some public streets. The locals will never agree to this, and will almost certainly never compromise. Worse still, they would be just fine with the university folding and converting to a park or something (so long as it doesn't slow down traffic).

I get frustrated with idiots on Cap Hill who oppose every redevelopment project or bar license, but they're a small minority and mostly lose. Upper Northwest (where I used to live), by contrast, seems inundated with cranks who have elected a lot of ANC members. Good projects are suffocated by obstruction (see, Wisconsin Ave. Giant), and great, necessary projects barely survive (Tenleytown Library, which was stalled b/c every amateur architect had to get their two cents in about how big the windows should be, or something). At some point, AU will simply have to fight and beat the neighbors on this, or the school won't thrive.

by mw on Mar 3, 2011 11:38 am • linkreport

What may impact and delay the AU project, as well as the Wisconsin Avenue Giant, is the distinct possibility that both current surface parking areas were World War I era dumping grounds for chemical munitions. Vacant land throughout the Ward Circle area was used by the Army back then for that purpose, as the longstanding remediation projects in the Spring Valley/AU area show.

by Sarah on Mar 3, 2011 11:55 am • linkreport

As a AU Alumni, I remember always complaining as a student that AU lacked real on-campus living options for upper classmen. Most of the student would live off campus by the time they were juniors. Any rentals around AU (maybe excluding the berks) were fairly expensive so the where to live next year game became really annoying by my final year. Having more dorms on campus will improve the campus is a number of ways... if anything it certainly will make AU feel more like a true college environment than the corporate feel it sometimes gives off. Lack of eating options, parking (the tallest building on campus is a parking garage), the lack of greek housing, etc. were all things that made me feel AU was somewhat anti-students.

The whole time I was a student, I blamed AU for a lot of these issues and I still think the admin could be much better. But I have since found out a year or so ago that most of lack of development was the neighbor's blocking and complaining. AU has gone WAY out of its way to make the neighborhood happy. (They would ticket students parking legally in neighborhoods off campus). Simply put, the neighbors don't want to actually be living next to a university.

Why buy a house right next to a UNIVERSITY? Plus, it's arguable if it would decease property values... I'd think it would up them in the long-term as AU becomes a more renown school. These are the annoying HOA people of DC basically. Also, AU isn't like some big party state school... young adults will be young adults in terms of parties, etc. but AU is not really that crazy of a place on campus, these kids are pretty tame from other schools i've been too. If anything, more housing options would take the existing parties away from the neighborhoods with the students being more on campus.

by Drew11 on Mar 3, 2011 12:01 pm • linkreport

One of the reasons that AU has to add more on-campus housing is so that they can redevelop the Tenley campus. Right now the Washington Semester Program is there with students studying abroad in the US for 1 or 2 semesters. In order for the WCL to move to Tenley, they have to find a new place to put all those students, so the solution is to build more housing on main campus and bring them there. Part of the issue has been that Washington Semester students are a little dissatisfied with being separated from main campus, and the distance requires Tenley campus to have a cafeteria, classroom space, and offices for professors. By bringing Washington Semester to main campus, those students can use the main cafeteria and the classrooms there, consolidating the space the program needs (and of course making it more profitable).

by Ted on Mar 3, 2011 12:16 pm • linkreport

I feel like I read most of this on dcstudentsspeak.org a few weeks ago...

by AU student on Mar 3, 2011 12:18 pm • linkreport

@WCLAlum: God, I would have loved the WCL campus to have been at Tenley Circle when I was there. I lived, literally, on top of the Van Ness Metro station, and in order to get to the building, I had to take a train up to Tenleytown, then wait for a campus shuttle - total of like 30 min. Whereas I could take my car right down Van Ness and be there in under 10. Guess which one I did?

This was and is exactly the experience of several people I know: live right at or near Van Ness during school, but the difference in commute times means that driving wins out every time. This is especially true at night, when there's low traffic but long transit headways, but also during rush hour, since the trip is on an East-West axis while the majority of commuter rush traffic is north-south.

by Dizzy on Mar 3, 2011 12:20 pm • linkreport

AU student: Yup, it's a crosspost of 2 posts from there. You reminded me I forgot to add the crosspost note at the bottom. I've added it now.

by David Alpert on Mar 3, 2011 12:23 pm • linkreport

@BFM: No, I think these two articles are very representative of the majority opinion at both campuses, for the reasons below.

Ken: GU students know there is no more room for on-campus dorms. They do not want to see what little green space the campus has left made into dorms no one will use. The fact is that those that want to live on-campus already do so, within a number of well-liked buildings. The Georgetown students that live off-campus live there because they want to experience off-campus living: the experience of growing up and taking care of oneself. That can't be found in a dorm.

AU students, by comparison, are tired of dealing with a lack of housing. Some will live off-campus regardless, but there individuals forced off-campus that want to be on-campus. Additionally, a number on-campus are forced into very undesirable tripled doubles. Three people in a small dorm room is all the reason in the world to want more dorms. GU doesn't have that issue.

by Jake on Mar 3, 2011 12:27 pm • linkreport

Isn't that the same ANC that has fought to suppress any effort to allow AU students to register and vote in DC elections - especially ANC elections?

And aren't they the same ones who came before the liquor board in opposition to the University's request to be allowed to serve liquor at University functions in buildings other than Mary Graydon Center....buildings such as the one that houses the School of International Service? As if anyone lives within earshot of the SIS building?

They seem like the worst of the worst when it comes to NIMBY's.

by Just wondering on Mar 3, 2011 1:26 pm • linkreport

@Just wondering-yes, although it wasn't the ANC but rather its chairman Tom Smith who was pushing the voting issue.

In a petition circulated to neighbors, one of the points of opposition was that there is a liquor store in the New Mexico office building and that would be less than 500 feet away from the proposed new dorms.

by ah on Mar 3, 2011 1:30 pm • linkreport

What will make this debate even more fascinating is that, like politics, all NIMBYism is local. Take a look at the plan. There is some non-dorm expansion planned for the North side of the campus, which is where the South-NIMBYs would like the dorms to be placed. But the North-NIMBYs would go nuts if that was part of the plan. NIMBY on NIMBY action, oh the humanity. The fact is, AU is going to expand somewhere and the DC Office of Planning will get to decide where and how.

Here's hoping AU reads this right about the NIMBYs and gets enough backbone to do the right thing for the community by creating a real retail corridor along the current Nebraska Avenue speedway and New Mexico Avenue corridor (yeah, the one where there can be no bike lanes). I think making that play without giving in to all the neighbors' demands would be the right play.

by SAS on Mar 3, 2011 2:00 pm • linkreport

Tenleytown wins the DC NIMBY award hands down. They're a waste of a metro stop. They've transformed what should be a vibrant urban area into something which resembles a North Korean village. As usual, AU shouldn't expect any help from their neighbors.

by aaa on Mar 3, 2011 4:34 pm • linkreport

@aaa

That is an affront to North Korean villages everywhere (especially in North Korea)

What I find spectacular is that we are at a time when cities are transforming to a more walkable future. An yet, we have American University trying to do the right thing by transforming its campus to something akin to what you would see in thriving college towns nationwide. However, because the neighbors complained, we are seeing the dearth of expanded retail along New Mexico Avenue and a super block along Nebraska that will have, what a grassy berm disconnecting the campus (and students) from the sidewalk?

That is ludicrous. AU ought to be insisting on an open area at the corner of Nebraska and New Mexico, and even a mid-block crossing on Nebraska between New Mexico and Ward Circle.

There is tremendous potential to open this up and become a neighborhood asset.

by William on Mar 3, 2011 5:07 pm • linkreport

Tip for DC universities: As there is a very DC-unfriendly House, lobby them to rewrite the home-rule for DC, and get rid of the undemocratic ANCs.

Is there anybody who has contacts high-up in any of the universities that truly understands why the universities put up with this crap? Why don't the universities go over the heads of the ANC straight to the City Council (or Congress) and make their valid points about NIMBYism.

What is the City Council's attitude to the universities?

by Jasper on Mar 3, 2011 5:50 pm • linkreport

@William - The plan calls for a semi-open area at the corner of Nebraska and New Mexico. There will be a sidewalk and a "retail promenade" separated by green space along Nebraska. The green space is intended to reduce the temptation for people to cross Nebraska between the two crosswalks at either end of the block. As a practical matter, since there's no parking on that stretch of Nebraska, it's not like cutting off direct access to the streets is going to reduce the retail attractiveness. You'll be parking elsewhere and walking to it if you're not already on campus.

Here's the current plan for it:

http://www.american.edu/finance/fas/upload/Exhibit-19-East-Campus.pdf

by ah on Mar 3, 2011 9:08 pm • linkreport

Most people have already covered it, but as author of the post on Georgetown housing, I wanted to reiterate that I'm NOT opposed to more on-campus housing (though the headline is a little misleading). I don't support unfeasible proposals for increased dorm-style housing and principled opposition to any students choosing to live off-campus. But like Colleen, I strongly supported the 1789 block proposal, which could have added 250 beds right across from existing apartment and classroom buildings. Its removal from the campus plan was a major concession to plan opponents who have redefined on-campus to only mean "behind the gates."

It seems like there are other issues at stake at American. At American, only 85 percent of sophomores are provided housing, whereas at Georgetown, sophomores are required to live on-campus, and students are guaranteed three years with the possibility of a fourth. American students have some real unmet needs, and I'm glad to see their campus plan has taken that into account, despite opposition from the neighborhood. Thanks for your post, Michael and Adam, and best of luck.

by Kara Brandeisky on Mar 4, 2011 1:00 am • linkreport

I know a handful of residents in the surrounding area and they are in full support of the plan just to have more walkable amenities. Currently there is Chef Geoffs and a Rite Aid. In the end I think the main bargaining chip AU has IS the lack of retail/dining in the neighborhood. If they can get a couple sexy letters of intent maybe the nimbys will be swayed by the siren song of a Trader Joes or a well known restaurateur. Put those letters of intent in a press release and mail them to all the apartment dwellers in The Towers and the other apartments lining New Mexico and Mass Ave. Rally enough support to drown out the handful of nimbys living within feet of the new housing.

by John on Mar 4, 2011 10:06 am • linkreport

Great post. I think it captured a lot of the major issues.

I want to add my two cents-- I don't think the neighbors around AU have provided a list of grievances. I've been going to Campus Plan Taskforce meetings since August-- then the complaint from residents of Westover was that students living in East Campus would have direct lines of sight into their homes. AU has since redesigned the plan, so that there would be no Westover-facing rooms. That's a huge development the university made -- and I think the AU architects deserve some credit for responding to the community's imput.

But I have a feeling that the goalposts will move every time AU makes a concession, because the NIMBY neighbors don't have a specific bargaining position.

by SamM.N on Mar 5, 2011 12:38 am • linkreport

Props on this excellent post.

I grew up in Minneapolis and moved to DC to attend AU before I adopted the District town as my home. One issue which got a lot of attention in Minneapolis when I was a kid was the folks who lived in the path of Minneapolis airport's runways complaining about the noise of planes flying over their homes on approach to the airport (and demanding that the planes fly somewhere else). Something I could never understand was why these homeowners felt entitled to say anything about the matter when they built/purchased their homes in the paths of runways which had already been there for decades. Simply stated, they knew what they were getting into when they bought/built their homes in the path of a runway so they shouldn't feel entitled to complain. I feel the same sort of logical disconnect exists for residents who own homes around AU.

Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, who lives around AU today lived there before the university was built over 100 years ago. Considering the wealth of Spring Valley, I am confident that AU's neighbors had the financial resources to build/buy somewhere else... but they chose to build/buy next to AU. Just like the people who moved into the paths of Minneapolis' runways, the neighbors of AU knew that there was a university in the neighborhood before they built/bought. If you hate the smell of sewage, why move next to a waste-treatment plant? If you hate young people, why move next to a university?

by Jeff G. on Mar 6, 2011 11:44 am • linkreport

As a recent AU alum, I am confident in saying that AU students do not want more on campus housing. The administration is too controlling, invades student privacy and provides lackluster services.

by CW on Mar 7, 2011 11:47 am • linkreport

@CW
A simple counter to your argument is the fact that students currently on campus would rather not be forced into triples as many are now due to the lack of housing. And students who would like to stay on campus would benefit from more options in terms of doubles, suites, or apartment style dorms.

It's a matter of increasing long-term student satisfaction and making the university attractive to applicants.

by cmc on Mar 7, 2011 2:10 pm • linkreport

@CW

We hardly try to argue that everyone wants to live on campus, but plenty of people still do. Maybe you graduated before the lottery for upperclassman on-campus housing started, and there was an uproar as people were forced off-campus? Or you were one of the lucky ones who found a cooperative, effective landlord when you went off-campus.

The Berks house a lot of students who move off-campus (somewhere around a third, I think). That building is literally a former mental institution. We can do better.

by Adam on Mar 8, 2011 3:56 pm • linkreport

@CW

As an undergraduate student at AU, I pay for my education and living costs though a special family education fund that can only pay out to a University or educational institute. As it stands, only 400 juniors and seniors are allowed to live on campus, so less on-campus upperclassmen housing is a legitimate problem for some students.

by EB on Mar 14, 2011 6:43 pm • linkreport

No one has mentioned whether or not they feel the growth of AU, GU and GW has reached a tipping point. Does a time come when, as Georgetown is proposing, it's time to create another or satellite campus? It's worth keeping in mind that many residents who live around these campuses have made a substantial investment in their homes where they plan to live and become involved in the community. It is a fact that most of the neighbors, about whom you complain, knew a university was in the immediate vacinity when they purchased their homes; but, most students pass through the community in four years and make no commitment to the community. Aren't you debating how a university balances its needs with the needs of the community? It's nice to hear from two AU undergraduates on this topic even if they only present one side of the equation.

by Karl on Apr 8, 2011 11:52 am • linkreport

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Save my name and email address on this computer so I don't have to enter it next time, and so I don't have to answer the anti-spam map challenge question in the future.

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