Pedestrians
Renovated Safeway at Seven Corners dismisses pedestrians
The Safeway in the Willston Center near Seven Corners in Fairfax County recently underwent a major renovation. This renovation provides no access for pedestrians along the sidewalk in front of the store, forcing pedestrians to walk in the parking lot.
The new renovation is a vast improvement over the old Safeway store that was here. It's bigger, newer, cleaner and includes a Starbucks. Unfortunately, no one paid any attention to how the front of the store interacts with the parking lot and the sidewalk.
This Safeway is not a stand-alone store. It is in a strip that contains a dozen other establishments. It is also adjacent to and very near a large number of apartment buildings, and a significant number of users (myself included) can and do walk to this strip. So it is not a suburban, car-only type of place, even though it has a large parking lot in front.
Although many users come to the Safeway, many also come to the other establishments, and if they wish to visit any that require them to pass by the Safeway (which is in the middle), they must walk into the parking lot to pass in front of the store.
This is, in fact, a dangerous situation. Pedestrians are forced out not into a parking area, but into the moving traffic along the front of the store. The large columns are visual obstacles for both the pedestrians and the drivers. It is likely that at some point in time Here are some photos:
The BB&T Bank is to the west (left) of the Safeway. To walk past the Safeway to stores on the right, one must walk out into the parking lot.
This narrow section of sidewalk is navigable without going into the parking lot, but there's not a lot of room.
The point where the trash can is located is the place where there is no sidewalk option available. All pedestrians must walk out into the parking lot in order to pass this section. Depending on where the cart storage is, pedestrians may also be forced out at the left of the photo where the leaning sign is located.
This is just past the trash can. The sidewalk is about 12 inches wide, but there is also a sign in the way.
Here's a look from the opposite angle. The sign and trash can are visible on the left side of the photo.
This photo is also taken from the east. The trash can is visible. The BB&T Bank is beyond the Safeway.
Fairfax County's zoning ordinance is hundreds and hundreds of pages. A search through the sections that deal with commercial retail properties like this shopping center resulted in virtually no mentions whatsoever of sidewalks or other pedestrian amenities.
The designers of this Safeway were therefore not required to give any consideration to pedestrians, which is obvious from the outcome. Only those who drive cars were considered in their design choices. Even those who drive here and may also want to go to the bank or to the dollar store nearby are forced to step out into the parking lot traffic in order to do so.
To his credit, when this problem was pointed out to the manager, he was surprised and concerned and expressed his opinion that this design would provide a disservice to his customers. Too bad they didn't ask him before they started.
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by Michael Perkins on Mar 11, 2011 1:35 pm
by Jasper on Mar 11, 2011 1:36 pm
/Lance
by JustMe on Mar 11, 2011 1:46 pm
I have also seen Ffx Cty zoning and urban design guidelines where there are detailed guidelines for landscaping, sidewalks, trails, edge treatments etc. *around* parking lots, but very little rules for what happens within parking lots. Even the placement of stop signs and the alignments of crosswalks and vehicle lanes isn't held up to any basic standard as if it were an actual public street.
by spookiness on Mar 11, 2011 1:54 pm
by charlie on Mar 11, 2011 1:58 pm
by BeyondDC on Mar 11, 2011 2:23 pm
Actually, around the corner is a pretty good Chinese place. XOTaste. That's where I was coming from.
by Jasper on Mar 11, 2011 2:32 pm
by Geoffrey Hatchard on Mar 11, 2011 2:37 pm
The new Lyon Village Giant looks nice and is generally pedestrian friendly, but it is slightly annoying that the sidewalk ends at it's entrance lobby, so you have to walk into the store to walk past it.
by JP on Mar 11, 2011 3:05 pm
I though the other comment above really was from Lance - LOL!
by Fred on Mar 11, 2011 3:16 pm
by Matt on Mar 11, 2011 3:26 pm
by Joe M. on Mar 11, 2011 4:16 pm
This article is right on - a huge number of people walk to the center (even though it looks suburban). The poor design results in an annoying and fairly dangerous situation.
by Rob on Mar 11, 2011 5:28 pm
by mvmike on Mar 11, 2011 5:54 pm
Also of note is that one component of Willston II's renovation was the installation of LED fixtures in the parking lot as part of a DOE demonstration project, which has gained Regency some notice.
By the way, this center isn't too far from the Ravenwood Park rezoning controversy.
by Terry K. on Mar 11, 2011 8:35 pm
by MJ on Mar 11, 2011 9:37 pm
Regarding the Safeway location, while VDOT can not influence what is done within a property, the photos are very interesting. I can offer you (or the writer) a suggestion. Since they have already gone through the zoning laws, they may want to pursue it under ADA. See http://www.ada.gov/enforce.htm. Any one of the monthly reports has a phone number inside it where an advisor will tell them if ADA would apply in their situation. Since it also says the Justice Department must first pursue arbitration before suing anyone, it appears that most of these are settled with agreements once the owners are made aware of the problems. After all most people just dont realize they have a design problem and just want to do the right thing.
I hadn't thought of the ADA angle. I'm not lawyer, but my common sense tells me that this would not meet ADA requirements.
by Steve O on Mar 11, 2011 9:45 pm
There are lots of negative reviews of this Safeway on YELP. Here are my two YELP reviews, one of March 2010 and the other of March 2011:
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Posted on YELP March 2010
It has been about a year since I last reviewed this Safeway, and it is still the same grungy, but so convenient dive. Safeway hasn't invested a nickel into improving this store. So here is where our household spent our $4,864.07 on groceries over the last 12 months:
Giant on Washington Ave and Spout Run $3,208.21
Trader Joe's in Alexandria $601.06
Whole Foods in Clarendon $436.24
Wegman's way out west $343.92
Safeway in Rosslyn $274.64
Since we live in walking distance of this Safeway, we'd spend most of our money at this Safeway if it were on par with the nearby Giant stores.
Maybe someday Safeway management will wake up and improve this dive. They don't seem to understand that business isn't lost, it just moves elsewhere.....
Review posted 3/27/2010:
Oh my is this place bad. Most of the produce belongs in the dumpster. I've seen rotten, out of date meat more than once on display. You never know if basics like milk and eggs will be in stock or not. This is just one pathetic, dirty, run down excuse for a grocery store. They cater to the lunch crowd from the offices in Rosslyn and have totally forgotten how many residents live in this area that need a grocery store.
I actually tacked down the regional manager of Safeway and pleaded with him to improve this place when half the freezer units were broken during the middle of the summer.
But I still go there when I just HAVE to because I live a short walk away and it is oh so convenient. Maybe someday somebody will wake up and realize how many thousands of people live in Rosslyn and put in a nice urban grocery store to harvest the money spent by this neighborhood at this Safeway along with all the $$$ spent at the Whole Foods and Giant in Clarendon and Ballston. A Trader Joe's could make a fortune in Rosslyn!
by Paul D on Mar 12, 2011 7:29 am
by TheGreenMiles on Mar 12, 2011 9:29 am
I find this the case with most self check-out lanes, especially the small stations that require to put your items immediately in a bag. The configuration is designed for "free" plastic bags, not for recycled bags.
by Jasper on Mar 12, 2011 11:48 am
by rextrex on Mar 12, 2011 3:16 pm
by ksu499 on Mar 12, 2011 6:15 pm
It's simply a corporate cookie cutter blueprint. The giant columns block visibility wherever safeway exists, regardless of local conditions (snow, fog, whatever, theyre all the same).
Luckily, when leaving the store, you're pushing a cart so you can dent a nice car or two.
by JJJJJ on Mar 12, 2011 10:14 pm
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Entrance 2
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by JJJJJ on Mar 12, 2011 10:20 pm
by Allen Muchnick on Mar 13, 2011 11:13 pm
by PeakVT on Mar 14, 2011 12:00 pm
The most absurd part of the Rosslyn Safeway is that as disgusting and dirty as it is, the checkout register lines are a dozen people long at busy times. More than once, I've loaded up my cart with groceries only to abandon it and walk out the door when I saw the checkout line.
by Falls Church on Mar 14, 2011 1:25 pm
And yet it is somehow less awful than the McDonald's on Patrick Henry and 50. THAT is possibly the single worst entry/exit for a drive-through I've ever seen.
by 7 Corners Resident on Mar 14, 2011 2:53 pm
I signaled this to the county supervisor (Penny Gross) while the construction was taking place a year ago but no response.
by John S on Jan 29, 2012 1:23 pm
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