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		<title>Need some rest?</title>
		<link>http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post/6341/need-some-rest/</link>
		<description>by &lt;a href="http://greatergreaterwashington.org/alpert/" style="color: black"&gt;&lt;span class="byline_name"&gt;David Alpert&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;p style="margin-top: 1em"&gt;Delaware will soon &lt;a target="_blank" onClick="return countClick('http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/25/AR2010062504361.html?wprss=rss_business/capitalbusiness', '6341')" href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/25/AR2010062504361.html?wprss=rss_business/capitalbusiness" style="color: black"&gt;reopen its I-95 rest stop&lt;/a&gt;, which concession operator HMSHost has spent 10 months renovating. What about other states which can't run commercial rest stops, like Virginia? Some say that nowadays the laws against them really only help McDonald's. (Danielle Douglas/Post)&lt;p style="margin-top: 1em"&gt;&lt;a href="http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post/6341/need-some-rest/#comments"&gt;Comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 09:35:00 EDT</pubDate>
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		<title>Stop in Burke, stop on the highway</title>
		<link>http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post/4670/stop-in-burke-stop-on-the-highway/</link>
		<description>by &lt;a href="http://greatergreaterwashington.org/alpert/" style="color: black"&gt;&lt;span class="byline_name"&gt;David Alpert&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;p style="margin-top: 1em"&gt;The new Northeast Regional extension to Lynchburg will now &lt;a target="_blank" onClick="return countClick('http://www.drpt.virginia.gov/news/details.aspx?id=479', '4670')" href="http://www.drpt.virginia.gov/news/details.aspx?id=479" style="color: black"&gt;stop at Burke Centre&lt;/a&gt; (DRPT) ... Gov. Bob McDonnell &lt;a target="_blank" onClick="return countClick('http://hamptonroads.com/2010/01/state-pay-3-million-reopen-shuttered-rest-areas', '4670')" href="http://hamptonroads.com/2010/01/state-pay-3-million-reopen-shuttered-rest-areas" style="color: black"&gt;is reopening the state's rest areas&lt;/a&gt; with $3 million in emergency funds, but it's unclear how to pay for them long term. Any progress on gas stations and fast food? (Virginian-Pilot via &lt;a target="_blank" onClick="return countClick('http://dcist.com/2010/01/virginia_rest_stops_to_reopen.php', '4670')" href="http://dcist.com/2010/01/virginia_rest_stops_to_reopen.php" style="color: black"&gt;DCist&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;p style="margin-top: 1em"&gt;&lt;a href="http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post/4670/stop-in-burke-stop-on-the-highway/#comments"&gt;Comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 09:09:00 EDT</pubDate>
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		<title>Don't close 'em, add concessions</title>
		<link>http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post/2924/dont-close-em-add-concessions/</link>
		<description>by &lt;a href="http://greatergreaterwashington.org/alpert/" style="color: black"&gt;&lt;span class="byline_name"&gt;David Alpert&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;p style="margin-top: 1em"&gt;Virginia is moving ahead with its plans to close many rest stops due to budgetary constraints. Delegate Bob Marshall is asking Congress to instead &lt;a target="_blank" onClick="return countClick('http://virginiatomorrow.com/2009/07/14/the-rest-stops-here/', '2924')" href="http://virginiatomorrow.com/2009/07/14/the-rest-stops-here/" style="color: black"&gt;temporarily suspend the law prohibiting restaurants and gas stations at the rest stops&lt;/a&gt;. If Virginia were allowed to lease space to such businesses, as is common on I-95 in Maryland or the New Jersey Turnpike, they could easily pay to keep them open. Why not just ask them suspend that law permanently? (Virginia Tomorrow)&lt;p style="margin-top: 1em"&gt;&lt;a href="http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post/2924/dont-close-em-add-concessions/#comments"&gt;Comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:08:00 EDT</pubDate>
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		<title>And...</title>
		<link>http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post/2818/and/</link>
		<description>by &lt;a href="http://greatergreaterwashington.org/alpert/" style="color: black"&gt;&lt;span class="byline_name"&gt;David Alpert&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;p style="margin-top: 1em"&gt;WALKArlington has &lt;a target="_blank" onClick="return countClick('http://www.carfreedietblog.com/2009/07/celebrate-independence-day-and-carfreedom.html', '2818')" href="http://www.carfreedietblog.com/2009/07/celebrate-independence-day-and-carfreedom.html" style="color: black"&gt;released a new Walkabouts brochure&lt;/a&gt; listing walking tours around the county (Arlington's Car-Free Diet Blog, Gavin Baker) ... VDOT will &lt;a target="_blank" onClick="return countClick('http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/local/VDOT-to-close-18-rest-stops-this-month-7932024-50064597.html', '2818')" href="http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/local/VDOT-to-close-18-rest-stops-this-month-7932024-50064597.html" style="color: black"&gt;close many highway rest stops&lt;/a&gt; to save money (Examiner) ... Gay marriage is &lt;a target="_blank" onClick="return countClick('http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2009/07/07/gay-marriages-now-recognized-in-washington-dc/', '2818')" href="http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2009/07/07/gay-marriages-now-recognized-in-washington-dc/" style="color: black"&gt;now officially sorta-legal&lt;/a&gt; in DC.&lt;p style="margin-top: 1em"&gt;&lt;a href="http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post/2818/and/#comments"&gt;Comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 09:11:00 EDT</pubDate>
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		<title>Why all you can do at a Virginia rest stop is rest</title>
		<link>http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post/1925/why-all-you-can-do-at-a-virginia-rest-stop-is-rest/</link>
		<description> &lt;p style="margin-top: 1em"&gt;Marc Fisher &lt;a target="_blank" onClick="return countClick('http://voices.washingtonpost.com/rawfisher/2009/03/why_its_legal_to_buy_gas_a_sod.html', '1925')" href="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/rawfisher/2009/03/why_its_legal_to_buy_gas_a_sod.html" style="color: black"&gt;writes more&lt;/a&gt; about the reasons Virginia rest stops can't sell food, which would make back their costs and much more. As &lt;a target="_blank" onClick="return countClick('http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post/1813/#comment-21690', '1925')" href="http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post/1813/#comment-21690" style="color: black"&gt;several commenters noted&lt;/a&gt;, a federal law prohibits this outside toll facilities, with Maryland using some creative loopholes. The best solution would be to just make Virginia's main freeways toll roads and market price them.&lt;p style="margin-top: 1em"&gt;&lt;a href="http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post/1925/why-all-you-can-do-at-a-virginia-rest-stop-is-rest/#comments"&gt;4 comments&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="related_posts_title"&gt;Related posts:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;ul style="margin: 0"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post/1813/why-should-states-subsidize-highway-rest-stops/ style="color: black"&gt;Why should states subsidize highway rest stops?&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span class="nw"&gt;(Mar 18, 2009)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post/568/dulles-rail-decision-from-a-backroom-deal/ style="color: black"&gt;Dulles rail decision from a backroom deal?&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span class="nw"&gt;(Jan 30, 2008)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post/1520/maryland-and-virginia-trade-places/ style="color: black"&gt;Maryland and Virginia trade places&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span class="nw"&gt;(Dec 19, 2008)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post/958/which-of-these-things-is-not-like-the-others/ style="color: black"&gt;Which of these things is not like the others?&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span class="nw"&gt;(Jun 16, 2008)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post/1178/icc-overrun-more-than-entire-columbia-pike-streetcar/ style="color: black"&gt;ICC overrun more than entire Columbia Pike streetcar&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span class="nw"&gt;(Sep 4, 2008)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:11:00 EDT</pubDate>
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		<title>Why should states subsidize highway rest stops?</title>
		<link>http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post/1813/why-should-states-subsidize-highway-rest-stops/</link>
		<description>by &lt;a href="http://greatergreaterwashington.org/alpert/" style="color: black"&gt;&lt;span class="byline_name"&gt;David Alpert&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;p style="margin-top: 1em"&gt;Rest stops are a familiar sight along major highways across America. I'd always assumed they made money for the states. After all, huge numbers of motorists stop to get gas and buy fast food. States could charge a pretty penny for the rights to sell gas or burgers.&lt;div class="blog_image_right" style="width: 200px; float: right; font-size: 8pt;"&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" onClick="return countClick('http://www.flickr.com/photos/starside/658597772/', '')" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/starside/658597772/" style="color: black"&gt;&lt;img src="http://greatergreater.com/images/200903/181139.jpg" style="border: 0"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;Photo by wander.lust.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 1em"&gt;Apprently, that's not the case. Virginia is considering &lt;a target="_blank" onClick="return countClick('http://www.virginiadot.org/news/resources/Blueprint_meetings/2rest_areas_option2.pdf', '1813')" href="http://www.virginiadot.org/news/resources/Blueprint_meetings/2rest_areas_option2.pdf" style="color: black"&gt;closing 25 of its rest stops&lt;/a&gt;, and not just ones out in rural areas: many of the stops planned for closure are in denser Northern Virginia and the Richmond area. For some of those remaining open, VDOT cites "Economic benefit to Commonwealth" as the reason, but it's unclear whether they mean they make a profit on it, or whether they've just decided that subsidizing driving to those areas is a worthwhile financial tradeoff. &lt;i&gt;Update: Commenters pointed out that Virginia's rest stops are not the ones with fast food and gas, like on the New Jersey Turnpike, but the parking lots with bathrooms and a map variety.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 1em"&gt;Marc Fisher thinks keeping the rest stops &lt;a target="_blank" onClick="return countClick('http://voices.washingtonpost.com/rawfisher/2009/03/virginia_vs_the_call_of_nature.html', '1813')" href="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/rawfisher/2009/03/virginia_vs_the_call_of_nature.html" style="color: black"&gt;is a safety issue&lt;/a&gt;, and argues that Virginia will spend more on police to deal with the crashes that could ensue. In particular, truck stops and restaurants that cater to them have been closing, Fisher says, depriving truckers of good opportunities to pull off the road for a nap. &lt;p style="margin-top: 1em"&gt;But if the rest stops provide subsidized places to rest, that cuts into the business models of commercial truck stops. Maybe if Virginia closes some, that'll drive revenue to commercial stops. Likewise, for passenger vehicles, highway rest stops take business away from nearby restaurants. If the rest stop restaurants were paying the cost of their space, that's fine, but the Commonwealth shouldn't use general revenue to help restaurants at the rest stops and hurt their off-highway neighbors.&lt;p style="margin-top: 1em"&gt;Federal regulations require &lt;strike&gt;a certain amount of rest&lt;/strike&gt; truckers to spend a certain number of hours resting. Opponents of closing the rest stops say that without the stops, truckers will violate the rules more. How about better enforcement, then? Or charging truckers to park? If parking fees or fines bring in enough money, the state could pay for more rest stops that way.&lt;p style="margin-top: 1em"&gt;Finally, there are alternatives to trucking, such as rail. For the two to compete fairly, both modes should pay their costs. If the state is subsidizing rest stops, then the trucking industry is offloading some of the cost of giving drivers the rest they need onto the public. Any roadside operation should recoup its own costs. Otherwise, it's unfairly competing with nearby restaurants and other modes of travel.&lt;p style="margin-top: 1em"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Update: OK, I'm convinced that leaving the rest stops there makes sense. Anyway, if VDOT wants to save money, they can quite simply cut some of the wasteful highway widening projects, like I-81, that they're so eager for. That'll save a lot more than the $12 million it costs to maintain rest stops.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 1em"&gt;&lt;a href="http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post/1813/why-should-states-subsidize-highway-rest-stops/#comments"&gt;32 comments&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="related_posts_title"&gt;Related posts:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;ul style="margin: 0"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post/2311/highway-departments-set-on-hot-lanes/ style="color: black"&gt;Highway departments set on HOT lanes&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span class="nw"&gt;(May 8, 2009)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post/1957/replace-bulk-parking-ticket-discount-with-sensible-curb-management-policy/ style="color: black"&gt;Replace bulk parking ticket discount with sensible curb management policy&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span class="nw"&gt;(Apr 3, 2009)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post/8466/mcdonnell-transportation-plan-mortgage-future-build-roads/ style="color: black"&gt;McDonnell transportation plan: Mortgage future, build roads&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span class="nw"&gt;(Dec 10, 2010)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post/8908/virginians-ask-your-reps-to-oppose-bad-highway-bills/ style="color: black"&gt;Virginians: Ask your reps to oppose bad highway bills&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span class="nw"&gt;(Jan 20, 2011)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post/1708/zimmerman-aces-tpb-blocks-i-66-widening/ style="color: black"&gt;Zimmerman aces TPB, blocks I-66 widening&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span class="nw"&gt;(Feb 19, 2009)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:39:00 EDT</pubDate>
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